Posted on 12/06/2015 11:12:02 AM PST by Steely Tom
FTN:
There are links between ISIS and this attack in San Bernardo, but there are no red flags. So how do you stop this kind of attack?
Trump:
Well, I think there are red flags, and some people knew what was going on in that house, or apartment, and people were not wanting to call because they thought it would be inappropriate to call.
FTN:
Inappropriate, why?
Trump:
Well they saying that it was... that they would have been "profiling," and a person said "we sort of knew what was going on, but we didn't want to profile." Can you believe this?
FTN:
Should there be profiling?
Trump:
Well, I think there can be profiling...
FTN:
How would that work?
Trump:
If they thought there was something wrong with that group, and they saw what was happening, and they didn't want to call the police cause they didn't want to be profiling... I think that's pretty bad. People are dead. A lot of people are dead right now. So everybody wants to be politically correct, and that's part of the problem that we have with our country.
FTN:
Have people been too politically correct with Muslims in America?
Trump:
I think so. I think so, and maybe with other things too, I think certainly so, and as you know, I came out with I want vigilance, I want real vigilance, whether it's mosques, or whatever it has to be. But a lot of bad things are happening.
FTN:
"Whatever it has to be..." does that include, I know you... where are you on the question of tracking Muslims in America?
Trump:
Well, look. We are having a problem with radical... with the radicals in the Muslim group. Let's not kid ourselves. And you can say it, or you don't have to say it, and maybe you don't even want to, but I've been saying it loud and strong. So, if you have people coming out of mosques with hatred, and with death, in their eyes and on their minds, we're going to have to do something, John. We're can't just say "we can't look at it."
Now, I made that statement, a number of weeks ago. It took a lot of... you know, a lot of... whatever, people were not exactly thrilled with it, and now everybody seems to agree with me.
FTN:
But this idea of tracking Muslims in America, that's the thing. Where are you on that?
Trump:
You have people that have to be tracked. If they're Muslims, they're Muslims, but you have people that have to be tracked, and we'd better be... I used the word "vigilance," we have to show vigilance, we have to have it, and if we don't, we're foolish people.
You know we're really... we're being led by people that don't know what's happening. When you have President Obama talking about global warming is our biggest problem, we have a President that is just not with it at all.
FTN:
There are three million Muslims in America...
Trump:
Right.
FTN:
... what should they feel about their place in American life now?
Trump:
Look, we are having a tremendous problem with radical Islamic terrorism. I mean, where... you can say it, or you don't have to say it. And we have a President that won't issue the term, he won't talk about it. So we're having this tremendous radical... Islamic... terrorism. OK? A lot of people don't want to even say it. Not a lot of people. We have one person that I really know of, and it's called President Obama. Until he admits that this is a problem, we're never going to solve the problem. But he's only going to be there for fortunately a little bit more than a year, because the problem will get solved when he gets the hell out.
FTN:
You mention political correctness, about Muslims. What the criticism of you is that you are playing on fears that people have...
Trump:
No, I'm playing on common sense...
FTN:
... and you're stoking...
Trump:
No no. I'm not playing on fears. I don't want to play on fears. I understand the whole world, and I understand... I have Muslim friends who are great people, and by the way they tell me, there's a big problem. I'm not playing on fears, I'm playing on common sense.
We have a problem. The World Trade Center came down. And by the way, speaking of coming down, they put their families on airplanes, a couple of days before, sent them back to Saudi Arabia, for the most part. Those wives knew exactly what was going to happen, and those wives went home to watch their husbands knock down the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and wherever the third plane was going, except we had some very very brave passengers, wherever that third plane was going. Those wives knew exactly what was happening.
FTN:
You mentioned the families, going after the families, what does that... what does that mean?
Trump:
Well, I mean I would certainly go after the wives who absolutely knew what was happening... and... I guess your definition of "what I'd do..." I'm going to leave that you your imagination, but I will tell you I would be very tough on families, because the families know what's happening. Even in this last instance, I see everybody knew... so many people knew... they thought that this man, and this woman, you know, whether he was radicalized, or how he became radicalized, they thought something was going on. Why don't these people report it to the police? Why wouldn't they report it to the police? Now... they said it was profiling. They didn't want to profile, can you believe this? They didn't want to profile, even though they thought something very bad was going on.
FTN:
His ah... sister said she didn't know what was going on, she's crestfallen, she's ah... crestfallen for the victims here, ah...
Trump:
I probably don't believe the sister...
FTN:
You don't believe the sister, you'd go after her.
Trump:
I'd go after a lot of people, and find out whether or not they knew. I'd be able to find out. Because I don't believe the sister.
FTN:
Do you worry about creating more terrorists?
Trump:
No. We have to stop terrorists. And the only way you're going to stop them, in my opinion, is that way. You know, they say they don't mind dying, I think they do mind dying. But I can tell you this, they want their families left alone. We have to stop terrorism.
FTN:
You don't think there's a worry... there's a tension, if you go to far... you end up creating more terrorists...
Trump:
What's too far? What's too far? They're killing people.
Whether it's what we just saw in California, or in Paris, they're killing people. Innocent people. People without guns. You look at Paris. No guns, nothing. You look at California, no guns. I can tell you if I'm in there and I've got a gun we're... we're going down shooting, we're going to knock 'em out, OK, one way or the other.
And if a couple of guns are in that room, you talk about Second Amendment, which I'm a big believer in the Second Amendment... in Paris, they had no guns. In California, they had no guns. Only the bad guys had the guns. So they were like sitting ducks, every one of them.
FTN:
Should the good guys get guns?
Trump:
The good guys... well...
FTN:
Should people carry?
Trump:
Ah... if they want to, they should be able to, because it's going to be a lot safer. Look at what's going on. We're going into these gun-free areas... how about the school, a few months ago. Gun free school, gun free area. And you look at what happened, it was a disgrace. If people had guns... how about the soldiers that were killed? Six soldiers were killed... champion marksmen, on a military base. They're not allowed to carry their guns. And a whack-job walks in and kills them. Not right.
So, I am a believer in the Second Amendment, and you know, the bottom line is the bad guys are always going to have the guns. We better do something about it. Paris is one of the toughest cities in the world for guns, right? You can't get 'em. And you had carnage.
FTN:
Why do you think people join ISIS in the United States?
Trump:
Well I think for one reason they're using the internet a lot better than we do, and they're brainwashing these kids. And the word is brainwashing. They are brainwashing young, impressionable people. Largely young. Probably they're doing it with older people also.
FTN:
How do you fight that?
Trump:
You fight it with intelligence. You fight it by beating them at their own game. You fight it by not saying "mastermind," like you did, like other people did. I see the word "mastermind," the "mastermind." I call them "the guy with the dirty hat, the guy with the dirty, filthy hat. They called them a "mastermind."
And these kids are watching the "mastermind." They say "oh, I want to be a mastermind."
The press is really hurting it. I will say that, I was very strong on that last week, and two weeks ago, with the Paris knock-out, and I think the press is making it... they're glamorizing these people. These people are animals, these people are not "masterminds," they're not even smart people, I bet you they have very low IQs, I mean, they're not smart people. And the press is making them into something... they're making them into Robin Hood. And young people, and other people, are following. We have to stop their internet work, they're doing better at... we came up with the internet, but they're using it better than we do.
FTN:
In terms of stopping them, at the moment, if you're on the no-fly list, you can buy a firearm. Does that need to be fixed?
Trump:
Well, I'd certainly take a look at it, I would. I very strongly into the whole thing with the Second Amendment, but if you can't fly, and if you've got... some really bad... I would certainly look at that very hard.
FTN:
Would you also look into... the shooters in this case amassed a great amount of ammunition...
Trump:
Right.
FTN:
They had multiple weapons... should that... in this new world... bring people under suspicion... if they're developing that kind of a cache...
Trump:
Well certainly people could look at it... I... I'm... you know... the people next door, and when other people are saying there's something strange going on there... that's not people going hunting for deer, OK... what was happening in there. Because they had bombs, they had all sorts of pipe bombs, they had a lot of things. And certainly, you can take a look at what's going on. Again, the word "vigilence." We have to be looking at a lot of different things, but we can't do anything to hurt the Second Amendment. People need their weapons to protect themselves. And you see that now more than ever before.
FTN:
We'll have more of our interview with Donald Trump in our second half-hour.
You can hear in the interviewer's voice that he think's he's hanging Trump out to dry.
I don't think that's how it's going to turn out.
I believe this is the first time a transcript of this interview has appeared on the internet.
Either that, or Google is for some reason slow to index it for search.
I take issue with one of Trump’s responses. The no-fly list to ban guns.
How do you get on a no-fly list? Who decides that?
If Obama were to get this power, the no-fly list would be full of conservatives.
Yes, I noticed that too.
I think the smarmy FTN interviewer threw this in to put Trump in a bind. He only said “I’d look at that,” which is the classic thing to say in response to a wedge question like that.
Savages , animals have nothing on these Savages
I have a problem with Trump, apparently but not quite, equating being on a no fly list (drawn up by who knows who based on who knows what) as a possible basis to deprive someone of his rights under the second amendment.
Yes because under the Constitution no American can be deprived of his rights without a hearing before a judge.
Of course, that was always a problem with the "no-fly list," if you ask me.
And people thought Megyn Kelly was asking “gotcha” questions -
To relate:
Megyn Kelly’s first question for Trump exposed his rampant misogyny in front of a national audience. “You’ve called women you don’t like ‘fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals,’” she began.
“Only Rosie O’Donnell,” he said with a smile.
“For the record, it was well beyond Rosie O’Donnell,” she replied. “You once told a contestant on Celebrity Apprentice it would be a pretty picture to see her on her knees. Does that sound to you like the temperament of a man we should elect as president, and how will you answer the charge from Hillary Clinton, who is likely to be the Democratic nominee, that you are part of the war on women?”
“I don’t frankly have time for total political correctness. And to be honest with you, this country doesn’t have time either,” Trump replied.
After that the conversation kind of went to hell.
That was terrific.
Megyn’s career path has kind of stalled, hasn’t it? She was on a trip to the moon before her “I’m-going-to-be-the-one-who-stops-Trump” act, it seems to me.
Mooselimbs are willing to do the unthinkable in the name of their cause and to defeat them, you need to be willing to be even more unthinkable.
Killing their families would be a good start IMO. Picking the “most holiest sites” of each of their sects and turning them into parking lots would be next. Then put the house of Saud on notice with a daisy cutter during the haj...
Wage the war that has been waged against the west and be willing to take brutality to the next level.
The more Trump talks, the more I smile.
The words:
“ they had too mcuh ammunition” was banted about.
IF you remember, there was a very long time ammunition not-on-the-store-shelves-deficit?
So, when the stuff was on the shelf, of course folks bought ‘it’!
WHEN the stores have ‘it’, they might not have what YOU, yourself require, for your particular needs, so YOU look elsewhere, and order what you can, right?
I tell ya, the buzzard in the White House, and some of those in Congress, are just waiting, with baited breath, and damp underwear, for the ‘go’ signal to enact something along these lines.
If the were not here in the first place, the problem of them having “too much ammunition” would not have arisen.
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I take issue with one of Trump’s responses. The no-fly list to ban guns.
How do you get on a no-fly list? Who decides that?
If Obama were to get this power, the no-fly list would be full of conservatives.
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I think if you read it again, Trump was hedging on his answer to that one, almost certainly for the reason you brought up. There’s no reason for him right now to know exactly how you get on a no-fly list, either, and he was careful to be somewhat noncommittal about it.
To be precise, jihadis are probably otherwise nice men and women who have been seduced by or have inherited from their family/culture...a demonic cult.
Excellent. Pop the propaganda balloon of these low functioning Moslem murderers.
The NO-FLY List emerged after 911, from tracking foreign fighters with radical ties and their air travel.
The LIST may have been abused by now, but the purpose of it was to save us from the underwear bomber on plane flights.
With that kind of FBI suspicion for foreign connected activities, you do not need to be cleared for buying a gun in the USA.
I think that is where TRUMP was going with his remark. They want to take a look at who is on the dang LIST, and purge the names from it that are not under FBI investigation, or are suspects, and also bring HELL to bear to those on the NO FLY LIST who need to be blocked from entering into and out of the United States, like they owned the place.
Trump has common sense. Not everyone on the NO FLY LIST should have access to guns in the USA.
Megyn Kelly is part of the problem. I wish trump had told her that. She thinks she is so smart, but she’s just another vain Lefty. Why FOX has her on is beyond me.
The next president is going to have to think the same way.
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