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Obama curbs ethanol in blow to corn growers
Politico ^ | 11/30/15 | ALEX GUILLÉN

Posted on 12/04/2015 5:03:28 AM PST by thackney

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To: thackney

If Pennsylvania had the first primary they’d be subsidizing chocolate and beer.


61 posted on 12/04/2015 6:24:49 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: thackney

Doesn’t matter, as it was none of these:

Ethanol costs more per gallon to produce than gasoline.
Ethanol ruins engines.
Ethanol reduces gas mileage and results in actual more pollutants per mile.


62 posted on 12/04/2015 6:25:49 AM PST by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: cuban leaf

That really would be a great way to weaken Russia, Iran and ISIS—but that’s not exactly a priority for Barry.


63 posted on 12/04/2015 6:27:10 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: cuban leaf

But also, doesn’t it take at least as much oil to produce the equivalent ethanol? If so, scaling back on ethanol shouldn’t really raise overall oil demand all that much if at all.


64 posted on 12/04/2015 6:28:58 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: G Larry

It was reduced for the reason the gasoline industry requested.


65 posted on 12/04/2015 6:28:59 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: 9YearLurker

This isn’t a real reduction in ethanol use or production. If I’m reading the details correctly, it’s a reduction *from the anticipated increase*. The amount used will be roughly the same in anticipation of flat fuel demand.

And note that the mandate includes other bio fuels, not just ethanol.


66 posted on 12/04/2015 6:35:08 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

What, you expect me to actually read the article?

;-)


67 posted on 12/04/2015 6:36:09 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
Yep—and ethanol isn’t the worst of what the ag lobby has done to us.

Just look at what the food pyramid and decades of pushing low-fat, high-carb diets at us

I don't know that it's the work of the ag lobby.

Instead, I'd attribute it to all the fad diets that infest the leftist spectrum. After all, why has the school lunch program become such a disaster? It's not the ag lobby, as it used to be, but the meddling o Michelle Obama herself.

68 posted on 12/04/2015 6:39:05 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media .IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: 9YearLurker

Why break with tradition?

The feds aren’t doing this for the right reason. Fuel for private automobiles is still fuel and promotes the use of the private automobiles that the feds abhor.


69 posted on 12/04/2015 6:40:45 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Blennos

For what it is worth, I share your wish.


70 posted on 12/04/2015 6:52:33 AM PST by sport
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To: bk1000
I’d like to think farmers can start growing food again so we don’t import as much.

Except for a few specialty foods, we import no food.

In fact, the American Farmer produces so much food that vast amounts must be exported.

A year or o ago one of the farm trade magazines had a special issue entitled 'Boatloads and Boatloads of Meat' which detailed the tons and tons of meat that had to be exported to get rid of the staggering surplus of meat we produce.

The same is true of ethanol corn on the all emotion driven ethanol threads.

We have always had mountains and mountains of surplus corn, Name the year, and the answer is that there was so much surplus corn countless shiploads had to be exported.

We produce so much food that food prices dropped 40% over the 30 years from 1970 to 2011.

But, that is fact based information, and as such has no business being on this thread.

71 posted on 12/04/2015 6:57:48 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: thackney

Like I said, “wrong reason”.


72 posted on 12/04/2015 6:59:22 AM PST by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: thackney
Two places in Houston are listed - of course the list isn't always up to date.

I went the pure gas route a while back with my car and got a bit better mileage but not enough to make the extra cost worth it (funny how not adding something, which costs money, makes a product more expensive - probably based on why those who can afford it will buy Kobe Beef when a good regular T-Bone/Rib Eye/NY Strip will do...

I did start using premium with added Sta-bil for my small engine lawn equipment though.

73 posted on 12/04/2015 7:05:40 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: 9YearLurker

Hey, I never said it would WORK. :-)


74 posted on 12/04/2015 7:09:46 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: trebb
...funny how not adding something, which costs money, makes a product more expensive...

Oil companies learned that trick with no-lead gas.

75 posted on 12/04/2015 7:11:45 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: thackney

“How is reducing the ethanol requirement from the 2007 law against Ted Cruz?”

Well, this puts Cruz on the same page as Obama as far as ethanol. Doesn’t the establishment want ethanol so they can keep their subsidies?


76 posted on 12/04/2015 7:15:09 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Jews for Cruz 2016)
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To: Balding_Eagle

“But, that is fact based information, and as such has no business being on this thread.”

It is entirely possible I have been misinformed, but much of the produce I buy does come labeled as “product of (Latin American nation)”. I would love to think the information you provided is true, but observing labels led me to believe we were growing corn for fuel while importing food to eat. Based on your post, I will do some research. Thanks.


77 posted on 12/04/2015 7:29:13 AM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscious is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Ted Cruz calls for ending the ethanol mandate and said so at an Iowa political rally.

Ted Cruz Is Anti-Ethanol-Mandate, but Iowans Like Him Anyway
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3367010/posts

Ted Cruz Woos Iowa Ag Summit With Principled Anti-Ethanol Subsidy Stance
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3266493/posts


78 posted on 12/04/2015 8:38:25 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: trebb

Two places in Houston are listed

Racing Fuel sold by the barrel at vastly higher prices that highway premium.


79 posted on 12/04/2015 8:41:10 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

So does that mean he agrees with Obama? I don’t really care, I support Cruz’s position.


80 posted on 12/04/2015 8:53:55 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Jews for Cruz 2016)
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