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Another Biker Named In Twin Peaks Sealed Indictment Now In Custody [Waco]
KWTX TV ^ | December 1, 2015 | Paul J. Gately

Posted on 12/01/2015 11:33:45 AM PST by don-o

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To: Boogieman
Actually, we have.

IIRC there was an out of town couple who were coming out of Don Carlos when the gun fight started who have stated they were shot at and police in the vicinity brought them to safety.

No way of knowing whether these were stray bullets or fire directed at law enforcement, but considering the two restaurants stand directly opposite each other its quite likely the police there came under fire even if it was inadvertent.

In its lawsuit against Twin Peaks, the Don Carlos restaurant claims it came under fire also and I'll wager the police have video of bikers pointing guns in their direction even if their intended targets were much closer.

21 posted on 12/01/2015 7:15:01 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: House Atreides

“Well, we’ve heard all kinds of “stories” from Waco PD’s own “Baghdad Bob” to that effect.”

Translation for the non-paranoids: we have had official statements from the police to that effect.

“I strongly suspect that when the evidence comes out (and it will) there was no one shooting at the police.”

Translation: He has no evidence to doubt the police statements, but he’ll call them liars anyway.


22 posted on 12/02/2015 7:41:21 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: glock rocks

“Apparently, Waco cops (and associated unnamed feds) do no wrong, therefore there’s no need to pursue that angle.”

Well, if you have evidence of wrongdoing, by all means, share it with the class!

So far all you folks do is parrot rumors from pro-criminal biker gang bloggers, or try to deny the reality that criminal biker gangs even exist.


23 posted on 12/02/2015 7:43:26 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: mac_truck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MA7JScdvVA

No couple appears on the video we have showing the Don Carlos entrance when the shooting begins.


24 posted on 12/02/2015 7:52:42 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: Boogieman

“...Translation: He has no evidence to doubt the police statements, but he’ll call them liars anyway.”
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So says the gullible (or perhaps simply true believer in said oppression) defender of statist oppressors. You are despicable sir!


25 posted on 12/02/2015 8:14:04 AM PST by House Atreides (Cruz or lose! Does TG have to be an ass every day?)
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To: Boogieman

Oh, by the way, I’ve changed my tagline.


26 posted on 12/02/2015 8:15:51 AM PST by House Atreides (Cruz or lose! Do TG & Boogieman have to be asses every day?)
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To: House Atreides

“You are despicable sir!”

Coming from someone who believes paranoid conspiracy theories without evidence, I take that as high praise.


27 posted on 12/02/2015 8:15:53 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: House Atreides

Like anyone cares.


28 posted on 12/02/2015 8:16:55 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
paranoid conspiracy theories

Violation of the First, Fourth and Eighth Amendments are "paranoid conspiracy theories?"

All righty, then.

29 posted on 12/02/2015 8:28:16 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o

Claiming the police just decided to shoot people for no reason, when there is no evidence of that, is what I’m referring to.


30 posted on 12/02/2015 8:33:55 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

I have seen very little of such claims. What have you seen that asserts that?


31 posted on 12/02/2015 8:36:44 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o

Lol...is that the only door to the restaurant?

Maybe they left out a patio side door or maybe they left a minute before the video tape you posted starts...it really doesn’t matter.

They were still in the Don Carlos parking lot when the gunfight started, came under fire, and gave an eyewitness account of their experience to local media two days later.


32 posted on 12/02/2015 8:52:59 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: don-o
I had lunch with two USMC club guys yesterday. They say the biker grapevine is on fire with why all nine of the indicted were not arrested on the day of the event. One of these guys is a defense attorney. His theory is that the arrest of the 177 was so botched that it would be hard(and expensive for the county) to get a conviction. If the indicted were all wounded then he is also puzzled as to why they were not placed under arrest at the hospital. He says about 15% of his client are placed under arrest at a medical facility, he is based in the Sacramento area. Also, he said that the inducements do not name the person that the accused killed. I wonder how easy it is to get a conviction when you don't name the deceased in the trial. I have not read the indictments.
33 posted on 12/02/2015 8:57:16 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("It gets late early around here..." Yogi)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Makes me think what Justice on an Industrial Scale would be like if they decided to prosecute all the crooks in DC.

They're just practicing for the TEA party roundup.

34 posted on 12/02/2015 9:00:48 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: mac_truck

Why don’t you go ahead and source that? Maybe it will state why they were using other than the main entrance.


35 posted on 12/02/2015 9:00:49 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: mad_as_he$$

No one has even been accused of Murder; hence no victim of murder.


36 posted on 12/02/2015 9:03:32 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Wouldn’t be much Justice in rounding up the Tea Party. But the IRS did their part. If the Zero had a 3rd term it would come to pass.


37 posted on 12/02/2015 9:04:19 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: glock rocks
Apparently, Waco cops (and associated unnamed feds) do no wrong, therefore there’s no need to pursue that angle. After all, they were bikers.

I doubt it would have mattered if it was a church group...

Oh, wait, they have been there, done that.

38 posted on 12/02/2015 9:06:07 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: don-o

Fine point. As I read 106 were charged with “....knowingly causing the death ..”. Guess that is really homicide. Not sure what that means in Texas. Around here it is typically charged as manslaughter.


39 posted on 12/02/2015 9:13:45 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ ("It gets late early around here..." Yogi)
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To: Boogieman

Had someone been shooting at police, then it is likely that there would have been damage to vehicles the police were beside and behind (judging from the location of evidence cones by those vehicles which would likely indicate LEO cartridge cases ejected from their firearms). Nothing of that nature has been published, even though it would have provided justification for police gunfire from the onset.


40 posted on 12/02/2015 9:16:06 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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