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CalPERS may lower its return target; taxpayers may have to contribute more
Los Angeles Times ^ | 18 November 2015 | Melody Petersen

Posted on 11/29/2015 6:52:16 PM PST by Lorianne

xperts have warned for years that the state's largest public pension plan has overestimated how much its investments will earn, leaving taxpayers to pay billions of dollars more than expected.

Now the board of the California Public Employees' Retirement System is reconsidering. As soon as Wednesday, the fund's board could approve a plan that would slowly reduce to 6.5% the current 7.5% it says it expects to earn on its investments.

For taxpayers, that seemingly small change is significant.

Consider the average California Highway Patrol officer who now earns $105,000. Taxpayers currently contribute $47,000 a year for that officer's pension.

If calculated using an expected investment return of 6.5% instead, according to CalPERS documents, the taxpayer contribution would be $68,000 — an increase of more than 40%.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: California
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1 posted on 11/29/2015 6:52:16 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

“Contribute” at the point of a gun....


2 posted on 11/29/2015 6:53:21 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lorianne

To quote two famous philosophers:

1. Surprise, surprise!

2. Duh.


3 posted on 11/29/2015 6:58:22 PM PST by ChicagahAl (Today's Democrats are much more Fascist than Communist; but Sen Joe McCarthy was still right.)
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To: Lurker

So what happens when a critical mass of the taxpayers just move out of California?


4 posted on 11/29/2015 7:04:22 PM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: ChicagahAl

Gomer Pyle, “Surprise, Surprise, Surprise”


5 posted on 11/29/2015 7:05:31 PM PST by rustyboots
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To: Vigilanteman

Atlas shrugs. That’s what.


6 posted on 11/29/2015 7:06:25 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lorianne
California is in the same death spiral that Detroit was until its bankruptcy. Detroit promised generous pensions, but the socialism caused people to move away. They could't afford to pay lavish pensions with a far smaller tax base.

People are already leaving California. The more they hike the taxes, the more free people will decide to leave. Calpers will be very surprised that Californians can say no. Republicans should be out there explaining what is going to happen and winning legislative seats.

7 posted on 11/29/2015 7:09:04 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Lorianne

Let’s see if I have this figured anywhere near right....the public citizen will retire on Soc. Sec. while the public servant gets a fat pension.


8 posted on 11/29/2015 7:10:32 PM PST by oldtech
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To: oldtech

And many of them with healthcare coverage for life - that’s the real crap shoot these days.


9 posted on 11/29/2015 7:16:14 PM PST by GnuThere
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To: Lurker

Illinois is guaranteeing 8%. And the Supreme Court of Illinois says that they cannot guarantee less. So, California is not going to be the first to go over the cliff.


10 posted on 11/29/2015 7:18:19 PM PST by poinq
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To: poinq

I never said they would be.


11 posted on 11/29/2015 7:20:51 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lorianne

Government worker unions need to be outlawed.


12 posted on 11/29/2015 7:20:52 PM PST by matthew fuller (GWB Legacy: BHO. BHO Legacy: ISIS.)
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To: Lorianne

If I didn’t have an 84 year old mother here a grandson and a granddaughter on the way, me and California and the liberals and reconquistas would be friggin history.


13 posted on 11/29/2015 7:22:56 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Lorianne

CALPERS, the Pension too big to fail.


14 posted on 11/29/2015 7:24:39 PM PST by AU72
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To: matthew fuller
Government worker unions need to be outlawed.

Ditto. Been saying. They are a direct conflict of interest.

15 posted on 11/29/2015 7:26:37 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (American Jobs for American Workers.)
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To: Vigilanteman
So what happens when a critical mass of the taxpayers just move out of California?

I figured out the scam and left CA in Dec 2000. My property taxes were subsidizing the Chargers and stadium. State income taxes supporting posh pensions for state employees. Meanwhile, my retirement is based on a 401k that I'm funding with no taxpayer money to shore it up. Getting myself out of the line of fire before my retirement is taxed even more was important.

I went to school with the wife of the recently retired county assessor in San Diego. His retirement pay is more than I earn working full time. Politicians hit the jackpot and retire comfortably.

16 posted on 11/29/2015 8:24:23 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Vigilanteman

They will be replaced by the smartest and brightest that Mexico has to offer. Gardeners and drug dealers will save California.
Funny that the public servants who want illegals are now looking at those illegals paying for their pensions. I wouldn’t sleep at night.


17 posted on 11/29/2015 8:28:13 PM PST by Kozy
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To: Lorianne

govt workers again...


18 posted on 11/29/2015 8:34:53 PM PST by cherry
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To: Vince Ferrer

the people leaving Cal are the retirees getting their big payoffs but not having to live in the mess they themselves help create....


19 posted on 11/29/2015 8:37:02 PM PST by cherry
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To: Kozy

the whole problem could be solved instantly if Cal demanded that its retirees LIVE in California so they get to pay the property taxes, etc...


20 posted on 11/29/2015 8:41:20 PM PST by cherry
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