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To: faithhopecharity

The Germans have an apprentice system. Gets actually get to work in a reach auto shop, for instance. They do the work while I pay double because they are supervised by a master mechanic.


8 posted on 11/26/2015 12:13:51 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: RobbyS

yes. the traditional German educational system for engineering also combines theoretical with practical=handson learning....
you are almost always certain that a graduate can do the job well

in USA, most of the engineering colleges have abandoned 90% of the handson learning, as one grad of the country’s leading engineering college put it... I can do operational calculus and explain semiconductor physics.... but they didn’t even teach me which end of a soldering iron to pick up (or that it needs to be plugged in)

so many grads of USA engineering schools CANNOT do the job well.... this is one of the reasons many corporations try to import foreign workers (yes, they do work for less money, but often they arrive here CAPABLE OF DOING THE WORK a lot better, too)

I had occasion to visit a VERY TOP TIER USA engineering college not that long ago.. .they still had an impressive older building filled up with engineering equipmnt (a hands on learning lab from maybe 30 years prior). It was locked up and eventually the university just knocked it down .... the students there get ZERO handson learning (except for plugging in some wires to connect things together in an impressive donated computer lab)

its such a limited education... its EXCELLENT for what it does but.... its so bookish.... so theoretical...and SO LACKING IN ANY PRACTICAL SKILL Learning Opportunities... that the grads just joke about (what else can they do) how incredibly incompetent they are at actually DOING so much engineering work in the Real World

we need to get back to a better balance in our educational system... yes, more like the traditional German system

just saying.....


10 posted on 11/26/2015 12:26:44 PM PST by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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To: RobbyS

That is true, Germany has a apprentice system and apprentice does get paid. They have to work eight hours a day and 4 days. One day they have to attend what is called a Berufs Schule, because the youth are required to attend school until they are 18 years old. Depending on the occupation the apprentice system is between 2 and 4 years. # years is usually the norm. They don’t get paid 1/10 of what a Master mechanic makes and a master mechanic deserves everything he makes, because to make it to master mechanic he has to go through lots of schooling.


22 posted on 11/26/2015 3:44:39 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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