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How GOP Establishment Defeats Outsiders
hollywoodrepublican.net ^ | 11/20/15 | Frank Demartini

Posted on 11/21/2015 6:25:08 AM PST by cotton1706

As of yesterday, Rick Perry, Scott Walker and now Bobby Jindal have dropped out. I must admit I was surprised by the early exit Perry and Walker, but all three are now gone. I’m pretty sure Pataki, Graham and Santorum will be the next to leave. And, shortly thereafter, barring a major change in the polling, Huckabee and Christie will be gone.

That will leave eight candidates. Three of those eight are outsiders, Trump, Carson and Fiorina. The remainder are insiders except for Ted Cruz, who is a little bit of both. If you look at the above chart, you will see that already 11% of the electorate is un-allocated or undecided, whatever you want to call them. If this 11% coalesces to Marco Rubio, he immediately becomes the front-runner. If it goes to where the GOP Establishment really wants it, then Jeb Bush is approximately up to 16% which is third in the field. Third in a crowded field can easily be the nominee.

Once you eliminate, Kasich and Paul, you add another 7% to the undecided ranks. I’m sure you see where this is heading. Rubio or Jeb become the front-runner at that point. And, as expected, the GOP Establishment gets what they want. Of course, if some of this establishment vote goes to Carson or Trump, the GOP Establishment is in real trouble.

I’m sure that will not be the case, but as the field winnows down, more and more of it will go to the establishment candidates. The antithesis to all of this is Ted Cruz.

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"And, I really don’t think that’s what anyone wants. So, let’s see what happens in the next 30-45 days. Who is the next four to drop out? The sooner the better for the GOP Establishment. The longer this field stays large, the more likely the establishment will lose and either Trump or Carson will be the next President of the United States."

The Establishment plan has been turned on its head. They intended the broad field to water down the conservative vote, but instead their own vote is being watered down.

Hope their Establishment egos keep them in the race.

1 posted on 11/21/2015 6:25:08 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

“Rubio or Jeb become the front-runner at that point. “

Blah blah blah.

Trump is at 38.8% this morning. That is a whole huge number of voters already.

(see the Drudgereport)

Rubio or Jeb cannot even come close.


2 posted on 11/21/2015 6:28:27 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: cotton1706

What a bass akward analysis. It is good that low percentage conservatives are getting out and narrowing the conservative side of the field while the establishment side is staying full.

The conservative candidates will get greater totals in the early caucus and primary states and the establishment candidates will never gain traction. Of course they under stand this too, so I expect a winnowing of the field there too with Pataki, Graham, etc getting out. Now will big names like Walker or Perry get out on that side too? We shall see, but I bet there will be pressure on some.


3 posted on 11/21/2015 6:31:27 AM PST by JLS
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To: cotton1706
How GOP Establishment Defeats Outsiders

Few non-establishment candidates have both the personality and organization skills necessary to overcome the establishment. This is true of anything not just politics.

That said, I think Trump's VP candidate will probably be picked as an olive branch to the establishment.
4 posted on 11/21/2015 6:34:41 AM PST by ronnietherocket3 (Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
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To: cotton1706

Everyone except Santorum, Cruz and Trump are on board The Cheap Labor Express.

Walker and Perry dropped out because people figured that out, Same reason Yeb! is dropping like a rock.

The citizens do not wish to abandon the rule of law and surrender their country to fraudulently documented foreigners.


5 posted on 11/21/2015 6:36:46 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: cotton1706

from Wikipedia:

“Adlai Stevenson (of the 1952 Democratic Party) and Thomas E. Dewey (of the 1948 Republican Party) were the most recent “brokered convention” presidential nominees.[citation needed] The last winning U.S. presidential nominee produced by a brokered convention was Franklin D. Roosevelt, in 1932.”

What makes this idiot think that the warrior Reince Priebus can overrule voter preference?


6 posted on 11/21/2015 6:37:53 AM PST by odawg
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To: Lurkinanloomin

The gotta split the Conservative vote!!

Gotta gottagotta gotta gotta!!

RINOS FOREVER!!

RULE OR RUIN!!!!


7 posted on 11/21/2015 6:40:45 AM PST by Flintlock (Our soapbox is gone, the ballot box stolen--we're left with the bullet box now.)
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To: cotton1706

The main problem the GOP establishment has is Jeb is as popular as Typhoid Mary and Rubio is barely treading water.

There’s no great enthusiasm for it and I doubt it has a plan “B.”

And Trump is way too popular to derail now.


8 posted on 11/21/2015 6:43:25 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: cotton1706

Not a bad analysis, but the Hollywood Republican (oxymoron?) forgets one important thing. If the GOPe finds a way to dump Trump or Cruz or Carson and nominate one of their boys, I think they will lose to Hillary. And by historic margins.

But then, maybe that is the plan. Lose big, then completely purge conservatives from their party. That is what the Democrats did and look how well that has worked for them. Damn near complete control of the government since 1988. The last time they were even challenged, the Republican wing of the Democrat party took Newt out.


9 posted on 11/21/2015 6:43:41 AM PST by Tupelo (Honest men go to Washington, but honest men do not stay in Washington.)
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To: cotton1706

Carson has been a bought property of the GOPe all along. It is no accident that Bill K.this week floated a 3rd party Carson/Webb ticket if Trump gets the nomination.

And Trump is in a much stronger position than this “average” from RCP suggests, given that it is backeard-looking and cherry-picked as to what polls are included.

But yeah, a Trump/Cruz deal at some point, if needed, could sow it up. Let’s jope Cruz doesn’t get greedy (and unrealistic).


10 posted on 11/21/2015 6:46:08 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Trump and Carso. Have known each other for decades. They work on the same children hospital charities including St Jude. Carso. When on Cavuto early in the campaign spoke extremely highly of Trump.


11 posted on 11/21/2015 7:00:38 AM PST by hoosiermama
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To: cotton1706

If they are supporting a one-percenter, their support is personal. They support Santorum, for example, because they like him. That doesn’t automatically translate into support for Bush.

Its also a way of saying, “undecided”. They haven’t signed on to Trump or Bush either one.

In some circles it may be unpopular to be for Trump (these circles are getting ever smaller, but lets say you work around Democrats). Its easy to say “Carson”, and what are your co-workers going to say? They can’t really say much. Its a safe call. Your car isn’t likely to get keyed if you have a Carson sticker.

Fiorina falls into that safe zone. If you’re for Fiorina your Dem friends can’t say much.

You have to look, though,at where the momentum is. No one is interested in what Bush has to say. No one is going to crawl over glass to get to his speech. If they get there they may not stay awake. Especially in the aftermath of Paris, no one cares what he thinks.

Talk to people and the honest momentum is Trump, Cruz, Rubio, Fiorina. People like Carson but don’t think he is qualified. People like Fiorina, but doubt she has a chance. Rubio is still too boyish. So that leaves Trump and Cruz. The people who like one, generally speaking, like the other. People who don’t trust Trump’s conservatism like Cruz; people who are put off by Cruz’s manner like Trump’s rough and ready exterior and people put off by Trump’s bombast lean toward Cruz.


12 posted on 11/21/2015 7:05:05 AM PST by marron
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To: cotton1706

Let’s say what is really going on here. Cruz,
Carson and Trump have the support of the voters and are generating a ton of energy. The GOPe is trying to figure out a way to overrule that. Voters are so yesterday.


13 posted on 11/21/2015 7:08:42 AM PST by FlipWilson
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To: hoosiermama

Doesn’t matter. They haven’t been best buds or anything, either—though Trump gave some money, as I understand it.


14 posted on 11/21/2015 7:33:21 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: cotton1706
When I think about how Sarah Palin's banner was taken down and her time in the Governor's chair cancelled early, I see that the establishment club is very shrewd at taking advantage of an opponent's ego and psychology to then use against them.

With almost total control of the media, the Alinsky playbook to guide them and no morals to get in their way, the establishment insider club is "The House" and, as most gamblers are made to learn, The House always wins.

Trump, however, appears to be a true outsider who is also an adept at handling both the media and dealing with the insiders he now is running against.

These skills have helped him to become wealthy, wealthy enough to not need and be beholden to the Trojan Horses that donors often are.

Plus, Trump is the right age for the job, but, at the same time, he hasn't become "old" yet like Hillary seems to have become.

Unlike the younger candidates, Trump has lived long enough in the "real world" to learn and understand life's seasons and to have mastered the aspects of his ego and psychology that the establishment's morals-free playbook works best on.

As contenders go, Trump is a real threat to their control of the empire they've built for themselves. No other person currently running comes close.

The rest are as easily controllable as Sarah Palin was, if not more so. Ted Cruz included.

15 posted on 11/21/2015 7:34:35 AM PST by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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To: 9YearLurker

After Walter one hour interview, GOPe is done. Trump number will go up.


16 posted on 11/21/2015 7:35:29 AM PST by jennychase
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To: jennychase

That was a great interview.

What a great family he’s raised.

(And sure, one more divorce than Reagan—but all highly successful and appreciative children, which isn’t easy and is a testament to Trump’s real values and wisdom.)


17 posted on 11/21/2015 7:37:40 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: cotton1706

Rumor has it - Pataki, Kasich, & Senator Lindsey Graham are dropping out of the race very soon. Hope it’s not true, they’re so easy to beat!


18 posted on 11/21/2015 7:37:53 AM PST by jennychase
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To: jennychase

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 5m5 minutes ago
Rumor has it - Pataki, Kasich, & Senator Lindsey Graham are dropping out of the race very soon. Hope it’s not true, they’re so easy to beat!


19 posted on 11/21/2015 7:38:45 AM PST by jennychase
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To: jennychase

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM2YNXHiWLk


20 posted on 11/21/2015 7:41:00 AM PST by jennychase
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