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Time for GOP panic? Establishment worried Carson or Trump might win (Washingtoon Post)
Washingtoon Post ^ | November 12 | Philip Rucker and Robert Costa

Posted on 11/12/2015 10:33:09 PM PST by dennisw

“The rest of the field is still wishing upon a star that Trump and Carson are going to ­self-destruct,” said Eric Fehrnstrom, a former adviser to 2012 nominee Mitt Romney. But, he said, “they have to be made to self-destruct. . . . Nothing has happened at this point to dislodge Trump or Carson.”

Fehrnstrom pointed out that the fourth debate passed this week without any candidate landing a blow against Trump or Carson. “We’re about to step into the holiday time accelerator,” he said. “You have Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year’s, then Iowa and a week later, New Hampshire, and it’s going to be over in the blink of an eye.”

Less than three months before the kickoff Iowa caucuses, there is growing anxiety bordering on panic among Republican elites about the dominance and durability of Donald Trump and Ben Carson and widespread bewilderment over how to defeat them.

Party leaders and donors fear that nominating either man would have negative ramifications for the GOP ticket up and down the ballot, virtually ensuring a Hillary Rodham Clinton presidency and increasing the odds that the Senate falls into Democratic hands.

The party establishment is paralyzed. Big money is still on the sidelines. No consensus alternative to the outsiders has emerged from the pack of governors and senators running, and there is disagreement about how to prosecute the case against them. Recent focus groups of Trump supporters in Iowa and New Hampshire commissioned by rival campaigns revealed no silver bullet.

In normal times, the way forward would be obvious. The wannabes would launch concerted campaigns, including television attack ads, against the ­front-runners. But even if the other candidates had a sense of what might work this year, it is unclear whether it would ultimately accrue to their benefit.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; trump

1 posted on 11/12/2015 10:33:09 PM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw

No one ‘has to make’ Trump self-destruct.

The question is will his followers notice.


2 posted on 11/12/2015 10:38:10 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: dennisw

3 posted on 11/12/2015 10:39:51 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: dennisw

I street campaigned for Mitt Romney real hard in 2012
and ended up totally disappointed . He turned out to be a loser , who virtually threw away the election in the debates .
I would NEVER support him again .

If the RNC tries some crap like this Trump & Cruz should form a new Party
and every activist and militia member in this country should do everything in their power to make sure the Dems don’t pull it off .


4 posted on 11/12/2015 10:48:57 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: D-fendr

It’s certainly been an interesting and completely different race then I’ve ever noted. ...nobody can really call it at this point....I suspect we’re going to see more interesting developments further out still.

Whatever the outcome all these candidates were not at all prepared for the way this has gone thus far.....so any who manage to remain really have to work hard at this and come up with otherwise standards to make it work for them.

As long as the news pundits give Trump the limelight he’s going to stay up there.... I still sometimes wonder if Trump isn’t a bit too close with the Democratic side and possibly intended to direct this primary away from those who would otherwise shine.


5 posted on 11/12/2015 10:49:08 PM PST by caww
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To: dennisw

Good. BE afraid, my Rino-Horned friends. Be VERY afraid.
You see what just happened at Mizzou for all the wrong reasons? The same thing, a top-down routing or rejection of each false idol, and every Golden Calf in the republican establishment, can happen in what remains of the republican party.

Just keep listening to old fossils like Mitch McConnell, John McCain and Lindsey, his Mini-Me, plus their trained puppet, ‘Rinse Penis’ he of no measurable testicular fortitude.


6 posted on 11/12/2015 10:53:20 PM PST by lee martell
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To: caww

Yes, it has been interesting.

I think it helps to remember that not a vote has been cast, not a delegate selected.

I’m sticking with what I predicted quite a while back: Trump doesn’t make it to spring.

>>”I still sometimes wonder if Trump isn’t a bit too close with the Democratic side and possibly intended to direct this primary away from those who would otherwise shine.”

You wonder, I’ll say it: Trump is a distraction and harmful delay from selecting the best *conservative* candidate to face Hillary in 2016.


7 posted on 11/12/2015 10:56:25 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: dennisw
The GOPe and Washington newspaper are running scared

They should just pick Karl Rowe and get it over with!

Anyone and everyone could beat him.

Dumb A**es!

8 posted on 11/12/2015 10:57:44 PM PST by TYVets
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To: dennisw

Get yer new and improved GOP panic!


9 posted on 11/12/2015 11:02:37 PM PST by Read Write Repeat (Not one convinced me they want the job yet)
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To: dennisw

They don’t threat Hillary winning, they threat Trump winning and doing what he says. His success and big Trump spine would end the GopE and already their lies and betrayals have ended them.


10 posted on 11/12/2015 11:10:35 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: D-fendr

I understand both Cruz and Hillary have been working in the delegate area for some time. Though I couldn’t say who they have in either court or not.

I’m not convinced Trump won’t make it til Spring....he may lay low for a time if his lead lessons and “learn” what he needs to do to pick it back up then. He’s all about “the win” so laying low isn’t his style.

As this moves forward he has to manuver in the field, as the candidates drop off, differently and I’m not sure he knows he needs to do that. But then if he is a “distraction” we can expect more of the same.

IMO there’s only one candidate suited well enough in all respects to face Hillary clean off the stage...and he’s well equipped to do so as you know. The Democrats know it too.


11 posted on 11/12/2015 11:16:04 PM PST by caww
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To: caww
I still sometimes wonder if Trump isn’t a bit too close with the Democratic side and possibly intended to direct this primary away from those who would otherwise shine.

That's the stuff 'Rat dreams are made of, and just the kind of crap they like to pull: crossover voting for weak or extreme 'Pubbies, that kind of thing.

You're describing a Judas-horse campaign to end all Judas horses, since the election of Hildebeast or a third term for Obama might be the end of the Republic and the beginning of a Principate.

12 posted on 11/12/2015 11:37:02 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Possibly...they do work as that at times as their history in elections has shown...let alone in Congress with their filthy tricks.

Trump has nothing to loose if or not he’s a distraction from the primary candidates. He’ll be able to claim a win no matter how this turns out just because of the fact he’s made it to this point as a Presidential candidate who changed the face of the primary elections.


13 posted on 11/12/2015 11:46:38 PM PST by caww
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To: dennisw

It’s going to be like 1968, or worse.

The party nominating processes have adopted some democratic features, but they are not at the root democratic. The Republican Party™ is not going to permit Donald Trump or Ben Carson to be their nominee unless said Republican Party™ is destroyed first by insurgents (unlikely).

When it becomes clear that the process is fixed (when Mitt reappears to “save the party”), there will be an explosion. This is true even if there is no James Earl Ray or Sirhan Sirhan in the picture, which is by no means assured.


14 posted on 11/12/2015 11:51:46 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
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To: LeoWindhorse

To be fair to Romney, the second debate was a tag-team; with Candy Crowley stepping in, while Obama was down on the mat.

OTOH, it’s difficult for me to even imagine Trump letting Crowley away with such a stunt.


15 posted on 11/13/2015 12:05:42 AM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I was soooo disappointed in Romney
same with McCain actually .

These men were not fighters .
NO ONE the RinoNC picks is a fighter .
They want yes-men in suits , their own little puppets
Trump , Cruz and Carson are not anyone’s puppets .

If they even try to pull such a stunt , as to bring in one of these past losers , they need to be utterly and totally overwhelmed . Even to the point of being threatened .

America simply cannot afford to lose another election
to these leftist creeps


16 posted on 11/13/2015 12:33:24 AM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: dennisw

They’re worried about electability, about experience and about gravitas.

Funny, none of those things bothered them about Obama.

What they don’t get is people loathe the political class.

They’re arrogant, clueless and stupid.

I guess we’ll have to send them a message next year.


17 posted on 11/13/2015 12:59:05 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: dennisw

It is time for the GOP to take a time out and reflect on whether their mission is to serve the people of this country or something else. They apparently are not getting the message from their constituents.


18 posted on 11/13/2015 2:23:55 AM PST by olezip
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To: dennisw
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19 posted on 11/13/2015 4:13:06 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: dennisw

Of course the establishment is in a panic.
They owe an amnesty candidate to The Cheap Labor Express.


20 posted on 11/13/2015 4:40:55 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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