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Ted Cruz Hits GOP Field Over Immigration After Debate
NBC News ^ | Nov 12 2015 | Benjy Sarlin

Posted on 11/12/2015 8:58:13 AM PST by ConservingFreedom

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To: stephenjohnbanker

{”you don’t even need an executive order to enforce CURRENT LAW.”}

The precedent is that laws have not been enforced and/or have been unequally enforced.

Groups like La Raza will go to court and contend that illegals came here because they were essentially “invited” by the non-enforcement policies of many years standing.

They will get a stay if they go to the right district court, and they will. It will go to the Supreme Court and what do you think the odds are there?


61 posted on 11/12/2015 9:57:55 AM PST by Calpublican (Republican Party Now Stands for Nothing!!!!!(Except Conniving))
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To: ConservingFreedom

“The topic comes up often at Republican events in New Hampshire, and Cruz received several related questions. One woman asked about his prior support during the 2013 immigration debate for legislation expanding H1B visas for high skilled workers.

“Cruz, citing recent reports of abuses by large companies to facilitate outsourcing, said he was working on a bill with Sen. Jeff Sessions — a leading GOP hawk on immigration — to ‘fundamentally change the H1B program.’

“’These stories are horrifying, those stories are a serious abuse of the program,’ Cruz said.”

Glad Cruz is stepping up on the H1B fraud. Let’s see how far he is willing to go to curtail the massive legal immigration problem that is overwhelming us.


62 posted on 11/12/2015 9:59:41 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Well definitely but that’s what happens when you allow the large Northeast and Western states to pick our candidate. And yes that happens and will again. The Southern Conservative states give their primary winners proportional points so let’s take Rubio Cruz as examples. Rubio can win NJ and get 51 points towards nomination whereas Cruz must win BIG in SC, GA, Alabama and Mississippi to get the same 51 points. That is something that has never been discussed but is the reason we will ALWAYS have a GOPe nominee. Most know this but conservatives. Weird.


63 posted on 11/12/2015 10:00:33 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Exactly right. Deportation is the law of the land. Even under Obama we deport hundreds of thousands a year. Trump does not need any Congressional approval to enforce existing immigration laws, including deportations.


64 posted on 11/12/2015 10:01:56 AM PST by kabar
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To: ConservingFreedom

http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Ted_Cruz_Immigration.htm

Ted Cruz on Immigration

Support Kate’s Law: oppose our leaders who won’t enforce

Q: About the murder of Kate Steinle, allegedly shot down by an illegal immigrant—will you support Kate Steinle’s Law, which would impose a mandatory five-year prison term for an illegal who is deported and then returns to this country?

CRUZ: Absolutely yes. And not only will I support it I have authored Kate’s law in the United States Senate and filed that legislation. I tried to get the Senate to vote to pass Kate’s law on the floor of the Senate just one week ago, and the leader of our own party blocked a vote on Kate’s law. You know, there was reference made [by Donald Trump] about our leaders being stupid. It’s not a question of stupidity. It’s that they don’t want to enforce the immigration laws. That there are far too many in the Washington cartel that support amnesty. There’s 7 billion people across the face of the globe, many of whom want to come to this country. If they come legally, great. But if they come illegally & get amnesty, that would fundamentally change this country.
Source: Fox News/Facebook Top Ten First Tier debate transcript , Aug 6, 2015

Path to citizenship is profoundly unfair to legal immigrants

The Texas senator is pretty unequivocal: “I think a path to citizenship for those who are here illegally is profoundly unfair to the millions of legal immigrants who followed the rules,” Cruz told ABC in 2013.

Cruz has repeatedly referred to President Obama’s executive order as “lawless amnesty,” and in 2013, he filed an amendment that would deny a pathway to citizenship to undocumented immigrants. However, Cruz has shown some vague support for a “path to legal status,” according to The New York Times. He has also proposed doubling the number of green cards given out each year.

Cruz has opposed the DREAM Act, which would “provide illegal immigrants who were brought to the United States as children a path to permanent residency if they attend college or serve in the military.” In 2014, he unsuccessfully tried to reverse Obama’s executive order to halt the deportation of young, undocumented immigrants.
Source: National Journal 2016 series: Republicans on immigration , Feb 23, 2015

End Obama’s illegal amnesty via Congress’ checks & balances

Q: How to respond to the split within your party on immigration? What you’re saying is that the Republicans should vote to fund the governments for all departments except one: no funding for the Department of Homeland Security, which handles immigration, rescinding President Obama’s executive action, and if he vetoes that, he’s responsible for shutting down the department. The problem is that’s almost exactly what you did with the government shutdown across the entire government in 2013 with ObamaCare, and it backfired badly on your party.

CRUZ: All across this country, Republicans campaigned, saying: if you elect a Republican Senate, we will stop President Obama’s illegal amnesty. We need to honor what we said. We should use the constitutional checks and balances that we have to rein in the abuse of power of the executive. Step #1 is if the president implements this lawless amnesty, that the Senate will not confirm any executive or judicial nominees.
Source: Fox News Sunday 2014 interview of 2016 presidential hopefuls , Nov 23, 2014

Defund amnesty; and refuse any nominees until rescinded

Q: How would you rescind President Obama’s executive action on immigration?

CRUZ: We should use the constitutional checks and balances that we have to rein in the abuse of power of the executive. Step #1 that I have called for is the incoming majority leader should announce if the president implements this lawless amnesty, that the Senate will not confirm any executive or judicial nominees, other than vital national security positions, for the next two years, unless and until the president ends this lawless amnesty. That is an explicit authority given to the Senate.

Q: Are you saying the Senate should refuse to confirm the president’s new nominee for attorney general?

CRUZ: We have to rein in the executive. In the Federalist Papers, our Framers talked about a president who would behave like a monarch. And step #2, we’ve got is the power of the purse, and we should fund one at a time the critical priorities of the federal government, but also use the power of the purse to attach riders.
Source: Fox News Sunday 2014 interview of 2016 presidential hopefuls , Nov 23, 2014

No path to citizenship for 1.65 million illegals in Texas

When discussing what to do about the 1.65 million illegal immigrants living in Texas, Cruz weaved into the Second Amendment, alleging his opponent didn’t support gun rights. “What does this have to do with the question?” Sadler asked before fiercely denying his opponent’s allegation. Cruz again said he didn’t support a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants living in America, while Sadler said the opposite, as expected.
Source: WFAA-TV Dallas-Fort Worth on 2012 Texas Senate debate , Oct 2, 2012

Give police more power to ask about immigration status

Cruz accused Dewhurst of using his position as head of the Texas Senate to kill a bill last year that would have given police more power to ask anyone they detain about their citizenship status—a charge Dewhurst denied.

Both agreed that the US has failed to secure its border with Mexico, and said they oppose amnesty for illegal immigrants and the Obama administration’s new directive allowing many young illegal immigrants brought to the US as children to be exempted from deportation.
Source: San Francisco Chronicle on 2012 Texas Senate debates , Jun 22, 2012

Boots on the ground, plus a wall

Border wall: James and Leppert oppose a wall, Dewhurst and Cruz tout “boots on the ground” and a wall in some places.
Source: BurntOrangeReport.com on 2012 Texas Senate Debate , Apr 18, 2012

Triple the size of the Border Patrol

Cruz on immigration: Wants to triple size of Border Patrol. Says Dewhurst supported in-state tuition for kids of illegal immigrants.

Source: KVUE coverage of 2012 Texas Senate debate , Mar 29, 2012

Strengthen border security and increase enforcement

Ted Cruz has worked to strengthen border security and help ensure that America remains a nation of laws. Among other efforts, he has worked on efforts to increase penalties for felons who enter the country illegally.

Ted authored a U.S. Supreme Court amicus brief on behalf of 10 states in Lopez v. Gonzales, urging the strictest enforcement of laws punishing those with prior felony convictions who entered the country illegally.
Source: Campaign website, www.tedcruz.org, “Issues” , Jul 17, 2011

_______________________________________________________________

http://www.ontheissues.org/Ted_Cruz.htm

Ted Cruz on more issues with links to detailed quotes.

The bottom of the page has links to the other candidates.

I’ve found this site to be quite accurate and reasonably unbiased. [Note: I have not found a detailed discussion on his H1B history and current positions, which seem to be the only objections I hear to Cruz other than whether he’s “likable”.]


65 posted on 11/12/2015 10:02:35 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Would that it were that easy.

Please see post #61.


66 posted on 11/12/2015 10:04:39 AM PST by Calpublican (Republican Party Now Stands for Nothing!!!!!(Except Conniving))
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To: Calpublican
We deport hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens annually--even under Obama.


67 posted on 11/12/2015 10:06:12 AM PST by kabar
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To: ConservingFreedom

Rubio’s a closet ‘amnesty’ guy...


68 posted on 11/12/2015 10:07:05 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: kabar

You are absolutely correct about that - we need to address both legal and illegal immigration. Illegal is easier to hit first...most people associate “illegal” with “bad,” and with good reason. It can be implemented much more quickly, and once done successfully it will be easier to address the legal stuff.

But, yes, legal needs to be addressed. That’s what the ‘65 Immigration Act was about - legally letting the Dems change the electorate over time to suit their policies. That MUST be stopped. Oh, and we’ll have no labor shortages - the market will sort things out easily, and while we might pay a bit more for our veggies, landscaping and new construction, at least the money will be taxed, and what’s left will stay here. Lower unemployment will also decrease crime and all of the economic and societal effects stemming from it.

Legal immigration should be a net benefit to this country, just like it is for Canada and Australia. We are not the world’s garbage disposal. Think about this - if the immigrants are SOOOOOO great for our economy, why aren’t the economies of their home countries all booming?


69 posted on 11/12/2015 10:07:47 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Calpublican

By the time it gets to SCOTUS, they will have left our country.


70 posted on 11/12/2015 10:12:31 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: kabar

There is literally NOTHING to stop Trump, and the sluts in the House & Senate aren’t going to DO anything. They want to keep their graft and payoffs coming.


71 posted on 11/12/2015 10:14:20 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Ancesthntr; kabar

If TPP passes, and is not undone by the next POTUS, America is FINISHED

Read section 10 of TPP. You will go bonkers like I did!


72 posted on 11/12/2015 10:17:08 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Trump worked with Sessions on his immigration policy in September:

http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2015/09/09/trump-huddles-with-sessions-to-push-immigration-reform/


73 posted on 11/12/2015 10:17:35 AM PST by Amntn
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To: kabar

Yes, but not in the millions, as proposed.

Also, many, and probably most of them, return just as fast as they are deported, hence there is a need for border enforcement. We have never gotten serious about it. It is time and past time.


74 posted on 11/12/2015 10:17:50 AM PST by Calpublican (Republican Party Now Stands for Nothing!!!!!(Except Conniving))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Why? They will continue working and/or receiving assistance.
They will be confident the SC will decide in their favor unless there are conservative appointments between now and then.


75 posted on 11/12/2015 10:20:48 AM PST by Calpublican (Republican Party Now Stands for Nothing!!!!!(Except Conniving))
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To: FreeReign
"They should- and need to- go home and get in line."

"If you have laws that you don't enforce, then you don't have laws. This leads to lawlessness."

"We can be generous and do all of this humanely. But the security and prosperity of American citizens have to come first. Our country, our people, and our laws have to be our top priority."

Trump, Donald J. (2015-11-03). Crippled America: How to Make America Great Again (Kindle Location 447). Threshold Editions. Kindle Edition.

76 posted on 11/12/2015 10:23:06 AM PST by Amntn
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To: Calpublican

No they won’t. Most will leave. They will stupidly riot too, proving to all Americans that they are criminals. Cowardice destroys everything. That is what we are now. We have a chance to repent. If we don’t, we are finished.


77 posted on 11/12/2015 10:23:21 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Calpublican
"Trump is not going to be able to deport illegals unless they are criminals. He knows it and so does the rest of the field."

We already have laws on the books. He just needs to enforce them. It will be up to congress to change those laws and they will not be able to with Trump as president.

78 posted on 11/12/2015 10:26:05 AM PST by Amntn
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To: gov_bean_ counter
"Dense. My comment wasn’t directed at Sessions’ knowledge, but at the Trumpettes who want to believe there is some big war going on between Sessions and Cruz over immigration.'

I don't recall any "trumpettes" saying anything bout a war between Sessions and Cruz over immigration.

I recall the only time anyone said anything about Cruz and Session disagreeing was about TPA.

79 posted on 11/12/2015 10:30:55 AM PST by Amntn
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Let’s repent of killing 57,.000,000 unborn babies.

Then let’s get real about immigration.


80 posted on 11/12/2015 10:32:05 AM PST by Calpublican (Republican Party Now Stands for Nothing!!!!!(Except Conniving))
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