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Ted Cruz Hits GOP Field Over Immigration After Debate
NBC News ^ | Nov 12 2015 | Benjy Sarlin

Posted on 11/12/2015 8:58:13 AM PST by ConservingFreedom

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To: VanDeKoik

I give Ted permission to flip flop on his current desire to see H1b grow 5x.

Michelle Malkin just wrote a book with facts that prove we have lots of STEM workers out of work, taking Stem in college.

This is just the CHEAP LABOR EXPRESS PAYING THEM 65 cents on the dollar they pay Americans, and no retirement or healthcare benefits paid since they are contract workers not full time employees.

IMHO, Gates, Ellison et al. are just screwing fellow really smart educated Americans so they can make even more billions for themselves.


21 posted on 11/12/2015 9:24:18 AM PST by Zenjitsuman (A)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

You really sound like a complete obnoxious ass.


22 posted on 11/12/2015 9:25:06 AM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: chris37

Not completely...


23 posted on 11/12/2015 9:25:44 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Beware the Louisiana Weasel - GOPe Plan C or make that D)
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To: chris37

Given his handle, what do you expect?


24 posted on 11/12/2015 9:26:07 AM PST by datura (Check their OWNERSHIP)
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To: datura

Proudly serving the warfighter for 25 years...


25 posted on 11/12/2015 9:27:13 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Beware the Louisiana Weasel - GOPe Plan C or make that D)
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To: VanDeKoik

The program has been abused.

Even so, supposedly there is a shortage of jobs in these fields so I can never wrap my head completely around the program.


26 posted on 11/12/2015 9:27:55 AM PST by Calpublican (Republican Party Now Stands for Nothing!!!!!(Except Conniving))
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To: kabar
This concern for American workers is a recent epiphany.

But a welcome one, if backed up by concrete policy positions.

27 posted on 11/12/2015 9:28:57 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Cruz and Trump are the only ones who are acceptable on the most important issue that we face.


28 posted on 11/12/2015 9:29:22 AM PST by amnestynone (Political Correction is a tactic based social intimidation to suppress opposing views.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Total.

All of it.

The whole thing.


29 posted on 11/12/2015 9:29:47 AM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Calpublican
supposedly there is a shortage of jobs in these fields

"the country has more than twice as many workers with STEM degrees as there are STEM jobs. Also consistent with other research, we find only modest levels of wage growth for such workers for more than a decade. Both employment and wage data indicate there is no shortage of STEM workers in the United States." - http://cis.org/no-stem-shortage

30 posted on 11/12/2015 9:30:20 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: LS
Does Sen. Cruz support deporting illegals, as Trump does? If not, blah, blah, blah.

I'm looking in Trump written plan to see where he says that he will deport everybody.

There's just one mention of deportation and it's for the convicted criminals.

31 posted on 11/12/2015 9:30:37 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Zenjitsuman
I give Ted permission to flip flop on his current desire to see H1b grow 5x.

Ditto.

32 posted on 11/12/2015 9:31:30 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: ConservingFreedom
He added that nominating a clear "amnesty" opponent was essential to Republican chances for victory, since conservatives won't turn out for a candidate they view as weak on the issue.

In the last cycle nominating a clear Obamacare opponent was essential to victory, but R's managed to choose the one candidate who wasn't one. Oh, sure, he sounded like he opposed it during the election (and we most likely wouldn't have it today if he had won) but he couldn't overcome his record.


33 posted on 11/12/2015 9:34:51 AM PST by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: ConservingFreedom
He can cite anything he wants to but Trump was the first one of the candidates that came out on immigration and he wants the ILLEGAL immigrants out of this country to save our economy and to put Americans to work then go after the manufacturing jobs for more Americans, and that's LEGAL Americans...

If the others want to obey our laws on coming into our country Trump has no problem with that, but they are not staying: THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS....

34 posted on 11/12/2015 9:36:18 AM PST by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, I hope you do too!!!)
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To: datura

Cruz has often spoken of his positions on illegal immigration:

http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2015/08/12/ted-cruz-when-it-comes-to-immigration-legal-good-illegal-bad/


35 posted on 11/12/2015 9:37:13 AM PST by Calpublican (Republican Party Now Stands for Nothing!!!!!(Except Conniving))
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To: ConservingFreedom

Cruz has yet to mention his support of deportation of the 12 to 20 million or the construction of a wall. He has still not put out a policy paper on immigration. Does he support like Trump a reduction in LEGAL immigration?


36 posted on 11/12/2015 9:38:34 AM PST by kabar
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To: FreeReign

Trump is not going to be able to deport illegals unless they are criminals. He knows it and so does the rest of the field.

You will note that Obama’s effort regarding 5,000,000 illegals was just stayed by a Federal District Court.

If he tries Executive Order, as Obama did, same will happen to Trump but in the opposite direction.

And he will never ever get it through the House and Senate even if he has Republican majorities. Because, as we all know, too many “Republicans” are Democrats.


37 posted on 11/12/2015 9:41:24 AM PST by Calpublican (Republican Party Now Stands for Nothing!!!!!(Except Conniving))
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To: kabar

Because he knows it will not happen.


38 posted on 11/12/2015 9:42:22 AM PST by Calpublican (Republican Party Now Stands for Nothing!!!!!(Except Conniving))
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To: kabar
This concern for American workers is a recent epiphany.

But a welcome one, if backed up by concrete policy positions.

Does he support like Trump a reduction in LEGAL immigration?

That's what I'm hoping to find out.

39 posted on 11/12/2015 9:42:51 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Cruz needs to concentrate not just on Rubio being against deportations, but also on him being in favor of “a path to citizenship.” See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3359280/posts

Making illegals citizens, even 10 years down the line, cements a Dem majority FOREVER. They are already working feverishly through HUD (thanks, La Raza Castro, the Latino Obama - complete with America-hating mother) to put immigrants on the public dole into purple states, but making a few million more of them citizens would tip the scales for good.

They’ve been working on this project since 1965, when Bobby Kennedy drew up the immigration act and Teddy Kennedy proposed it in the Senate. Letting them win on this issue will guarantee a loss for us on EVERY OTHER ISSUE WE CARE ABOUT - abortion, freedom of religion, the 2nd Amendment, fiscal responsibility, a strong defense and foreign policy, speech codes, etc., etc. Cruz needs to hammer this home EVERY DAY.

No citizenship for illegals, EVER! Those who stay must have a PERMANENT addition to their papers and other records that they are forever ineligible for citizenship here. Further, we need a law invalidating birthright citizenship - but barring a blanket repeal of the concept, at the least it must be applied to ALL illegal and also to ANY children whom they have had.


40 posted on 11/12/2015 9:43:11 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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