Posted on 11/12/2015 6:06:07 AM PST by rktman
Pilgrim Governor William Bradford described in “Of Plymouth Plantation,†that sharing “all profits & benefits … in ye common stock,†regardless of how hard each individual worked, did not work: The failure of that experiment of communal service, which was tried for several years, and by good and honest men, proves the emptiness of the theory of Plato and other ancients, applauded by some of later times, – that the taking away of private property, and the possession of it in community, by a commonwealth, would make a state happy and flourishing; as it they were wiser than God. …
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The UN Agenda 21 wants to reduce population by 85%. Extreme radical barbarian religions will accomplish much of this for them and then they kill off the assassins.
Bkmrk.
Geez. You would think that with all the wonderful things about agenda 21 that the u.n. assclowns would be advertising it like crazy. Pretty sad how few Americans have even the slightest clue about agenda 21 and the evil that is included in it. But ask about cait jenner-kardouchian and a lot of them will give you great detail about it’s latest outfit.
In the early 19th Century, Horace Greeley (Go West, young man) funded a commune in the Poconos. Total disaster: and he had to find homes for the orphaned children. He regretted the disaster the rest of his life.
Also, there was Brooke Farm outside of Boston. Another disaster. Then we had the hippies—more disaster. The lesson: some idiots infect every generation.
NO been there, tried that for 4 Yrs at Plymouth Plantation begining in 1620 and it doesn't work.
It’s never worked - anyplace it’s ever been tried - except in the imaginations of the jealous and amoral thieves who are its only advocates.
Horace Greeley was also a major "We must go to war with the South to Abolish Slavery!" type as well.
I have been contemplating that the North Eastern Abolitionists were basically the same Liberals we are facing today, and from the same regions of the Country, and with the same sort of impetuous drives behind them.
They are generally disconnected from the common man or reality, and want to "change" the existing structure into something else.
What used to be opposition to slavery has since morphed into "Animal Rights!" and "Feminisim!" and "Gay Rights!" and "Transgender Rights!" and "Global Warming!", and so on.
It goes back to Plato: Ideas are the true reality. Every self-proclaimed intellectual thinks he knows better than the guy who can change his own oil. Nothing is more dangerous than giving power to an intellectual: Pol Pot, Lenin, and Woodrow Wilson.
I believe it was President Harry Truman who (paraphrased) a quote by some historical figure who said *the only thing new in this world is the history you have not yet read*.
The experience that was had in this common course and condition, tried sundry years and that amongst godly and sober men, may well evince the vanity of that conceit of Plato’s and other ancients applauded by some of later times; and that the taking away of property and bringing in community into a commonwealth would make them happy and flourishing; as if they were wiser than God. For this community (so far as it was) was found to breed much confusion and discontent and retard much employment that would have been to their benefit and comfort. For the young men, that were most able and fit for labor and service, did repine that they should spend their time and strength to work for other men’s wives and children without any recompense. The strong, or man of parts, had no more in division of victuals and clothes than he that was weak and not able to do a quarter the other could; this was thought injustice. The aged and graver men to be ranked and equalized in labors and victuals, clothes etc., with the meaner and younger sort, thought it some indignity and disrespect unto them. And for men’s wives to be commanded to do service for other men, as dressing their meat, washing their clothes, etc., they deemed it a kind of slavery, neither could many husbands well brook it. Upon the point all being to have alike, and all to do alike, they thought themselves in the like condition, and one as good as another; and so, if it did not cut off those relations that God hath set amongst men, yet it did at least much diminish and take off the mutual respects that should be preserved amongst them. And would have been worse if they had been men of another condition. Let none object this is men’s corruption, and nothing to the course itself. I answer, seeing all men have this corruption in them, God in His wisdom saw another course fitter for them. - William Bradford: from History of Plymouth Plantation, c. 1650
Thanks.
communism works as small pockets in a capitalist society — example kibbutzes or monasteries. Internally they are communist-like, but if they had to stand on their own without the outside world to trade in, they would collapse. Most communist or socialist sympathisers don’t see the latter
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