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F-16s Could Fly for 92 Years In theory
WAR IS BORING ^ | November 7, 2015 | DAVID AXE

Posted on 11/09/2015 10:27:06 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

Lockheed Martin, which manufactures the iconic F-16 jet fighter, just completed a two-year test that simulated a staggering 92 years of normal flying for one of the single-engine planes.

That’s a long time. And amazingly, the F-16 — a 1990s-vintage Block 50 version — held up just fine. “The airframe was then subjected to several maximum-load conditions to demonstrate that the airframe still had sufficient strength to operate within its full operational flight envelope,” Lockheed explained in a press release.

The point of the test was to provide data for Lockheed’s coming effort to rebuild 300 or so U.S. Air Force F-16s — Block 50s and earlier Block 40s — so they can keep flying at least into the 2030s. The Air Force is struggling to maintain its roughly 1,900-strong fleet of F-15s, F-16s, F-22 and A-10s while also buying new F-35s to replace the oldest F-16s, for starters.

At some point in the 2030s, according to Air Force plans, the fighter fleet will consist of just 180 or so F-22s and slightly more than 1,760 F-35s. It’s getting from here to there that’s tricky.

That’s because the F-35s are coming in dribs and drabs. In 2010, the Air Force wanted to buy 80 per year starting in 2015, but owing to deep budget cuts and the stealth fighter’s high price — currently around $100 million per copy — today the plan is to buy 80 per year starting in 2021.

Above — Lockheed Martin photo. At top — Air Force photo

So the newest of the Air Force’s 1,000 F-16s must stick around longer than anyone had expected. As built, Block 40 and 50 F-16s have an 8,000 flight-hour fatigue life. At normal usage of around 300 hours per year, that amounts to 24 years, which would compel the F-16s to retire … well, now.

So the Air Force is bumping these F-16s up to at least 12,000 hours. Hence the fatigue testing — and the surprising conclusion that, in theory, an F-16 could last as long as 92 years. “The successful completion of this phase of full-scale durability testing demonstrates that this aircraft was built to last,” Susan Ouzts, vice president of Lockheed’s F-16 program, said in the press release.

To be clear, there’s basically no chance an F-16 will need to remain in service nearly 100 years. Although, to be fair, the Air Force’s 1960s-vintage KC-135 tankers and B-52 bombers could be 80 years old by the time they retire.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aviation; f16; lockheedmartin; usaf
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1 posted on 11/09/2015 10:27:06 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Lemme know when you find someone who wants to do a 9g turn in a 90 year old airplane.


2 posted on 11/09/2015 10:31:11 AM PST by Regulator
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To: Regulator

"Just not all at one time"

3 posted on 11/09/2015 10:34:30 AM PST by TomServo
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To: Regulator

The design can be ninety years old but the frame, engine and avionics would be up to date.


4 posted on 11/09/2015 10:35:56 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: TomServo

“I thought you said you were open 24 hours.”
“Not in a row!”


5 posted on 11/09/2015 10:36:57 AM PST by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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To: Regulator

“Lemme know when you find someone who wants to do a 9g turn in a 90 year old airplane.”

I just about did a 9g turn yesterday in my 58 year old 1957 Bel Air when I hit the drum brakes a bit hard.


6 posted on 11/09/2015 10:38:34 AM PST by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

There are still plenty of Model T’s out there that run but so what? The technology is totally obsolete. They would have absolutely no use in the modern battlefield, other than serving as targets.


7 posted on 11/09/2015 10:38:38 AM PST by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

They may have to last 90 years


8 posted on 11/09/2015 10:40:00 AM PST by PGR88
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To: sparklite2

Just swap the fossil-fuel based engine out for nuclear... be like submarines, much lighter than a sub, could stay up even more than 92 years.

While the fuel would last a long time, the bladder tanks would need emptying more frequently.


9 posted on 11/09/2015 10:44:51 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is libertye)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Why not? The BUFFs are still airborne.


10 posted on 11/09/2015 10:48:22 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

so they get roughly 4 years of flying per gallon of fuel?


11 posted on 11/09/2015 10:49:58 AM PST by Bob434
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To: CommerceComet

I don’t completely buy into that. Many modern military machines are lasting longer than ever with just modernization upgrades. The Abrams MBT is projected to be in service until 2050, We have B-52’s still in service. The Iowa class BB’s lasted for 50 years.


12 posted on 11/09/2015 10:57:50 AM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: sukhoi-30mki

We let the Navy fly them (F-16Ns at NFWS, VF-126, VF-45 and others) and they ruined them in less that five years. ;)


13 posted on 11/09/2015 10:58:18 AM PST by Fundamentally Fair (Pictionary at the Rorschach's tonight!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Man, are you gonna need a pee break after all that time.


14 posted on 11/09/2015 10:59:11 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Just for starters, you cannot realistically simulate the effects of 92 years of exposure to the elements, metal fatigue and corrosion in two years.


15 posted on 11/09/2015 11:00:20 AM PST by Iron Munro (<p> The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

If you build them.. they will.. sell.

Combat use of F-16s in Mideast spurs fresh demand: Lockheed
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/combat-f-16s-mideast-spurs-fresh-demand-lockheed-093331142—finance.html

DUBAI (Reuters) - Combat use of Lockheed Martin Corp’s .. F-16 fighter jets in air strikes over Yemen, Syria and Iraq is spurring fresh demand for the warplane, which has sold 4,588 times and is in use by 27 countries, according to Lockheed officials.

Randy Howard, director of Lockheed’s integrated fighter group, told Reuters that current F-16 orders would keep the production line running through the fourth quarter of 2017, but other opportunities in Indonesia, the Gulf, eastern Europe and other regions could extend the line well into 2019 and beyond.

Rick Groesch, regional vice president for Lockheed in the Middle East, said a number of countries in the Gulf already operated F-16 jets, but others were taking a closer look after seeing successful use of the jets against Islamic State militants in Syria and Iraq, and insurgents in Yemen.

Combat operations are “certainly opening the eyes of the various air forces to the sense that it makes to have interoperability with your neighbor if you’re flying,” Groesch told Reuters.

Lockheed has sold F-16s to Oman, Bahrain, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt and United Arab Emirates, but remains in discussions with Kuwait, Qatar and Saudi Arabia about other potential opportunities, Groesch said.

—snip—


16 posted on 11/09/2015 11:05:59 AM PST by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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To: C210N

We tried the nuclear jet engine, back in the early 1960s. It worked, but was radiologically filthy.


17 posted on 11/09/2015 11:09:41 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: sukhoi-30mki
"F-16s Could Fly for 92 Years In theory"...but, your mileage may vary.
18 posted on 11/09/2015 11:09:47 AM PST by chrisser (This space for rent.)
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To: NorthMountain

Talk about chemtrails...


19 posted on 11/09/2015 11:11:43 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is libertye)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

According to the director of the movie Battlefield Earth the Harrier can fly for 1000 years.


20 posted on 11/09/2015 11:12:37 AM PST by Rebelbase
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