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Now who would want to weaken al Sisi's government and further depress the weakened Egyptian tourist economy?
1 posted on 11/06/2015 7:00:23 AM PST by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot

That’s a tough one. Dare I profile the Muslim Brotherhood affiliates without incurring the wrath of Jimmy Carter and President Valarie Jarrett?


2 posted on 11/06/2015 7:02:26 AM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Navy Patriot

This is a surprise? Have you noticed who works at airports lately? Probably the same in the Middle East.


3 posted on 11/06/2015 7:03:54 AM PST by jch10 (Hillary in the Big House, not the White House .)
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To: Navy Patriot

Ansolutely no clue.../s


4 posted on 11/06/2015 7:04:36 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Navy Patriot

Absolutely no clue.../s


5 posted on 11/06/2015 7:04:50 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Navy Patriot

Breaking:

http://news.sky.com/story/1583031/egypt-rescue-flight-diverted-in-mid-air


6 posted on 11/06/2015 7:06:15 AM PST by halo66
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To: Navy Patriot

Workers at foreign airports are always a credible weak link.


7 posted on 11/06/2015 7:08:38 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Navy Patriot
Report: Airport worker may have put bomb on Russian airliner

What I said the very first day.

I also predict the Russians are going to find out who in the ground crew is responsible and kill them, and then kill their entire family.

Russia does not play stupid games. They might even kill the entire ground crew, just to be sure, and more importantly send a message to others who might be looking the other way when terrorists plant bombs.

9 posted on 11/06/2015 7:10:37 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Navy Patriot
Yes CNN that could have happened.

Duh

10 posted on 11/06/2015 7:10:41 AM PST by TYVets
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To: Navy Patriot
From what pics I can find (I am not an aero engineer), if the nose gear folds backward into the well, a bomb placed on that might blow the nose (cockpit section) off the aircraft, and subsequent flight behaviour would be like Flight 800: plane rising, stalling, and diving, breaking up in the dive.

So the above is entirely possible...

11 posted on 11/06/2015 7:15:27 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Navy Patriot
Now who would want to weaken al Sisi's government and further depress the weakened Egyptian tourist economy?

Your boy KGB/FSB Putin might want to do it. He should at least be considered a suspect.

Czech Defense Minister: "Russia is Orchestrating Muslim Invasion of Europe"

Posted By: TRT NEWS October 31, 2015

Prague, Czech Republic - Russia is orchestrating, coordinating, and funding the ongoing invasion of European countries by Muslim, military-age males, the Czech Defense Minister shared with IDNES.cz on October 10th, 2015.

According to Martin Stropnicky, the Defense Minister for the Czech Republic, he was informed by the Hungarian Defense Minister Istvan Simicsko that Russia was financing the busing of military-age Islamic males across the borders of the Balkan nations.

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Speculation has been rife for some time now that Russian forces have been plotting a ground invasion to retake the former satellite states of the Soviet Union, and eventually capturing the European capitals.

The overwhelming of these nations' borders, social services, and law enforcement mechanisms would destabilize and weaken the internal security controls when Russian military units would make their move.

"The Russian Federation does not desire a unified and cohesive European Union," Stropnicky said in the interview. "I do not envision the current invasion ceasing anytime soon."

As the Russian Federation has modernized its military forces and transformed its military theory to a hybrid combination of special forces, infantry, and airpower, it has made impressive advances in its latest generation tank and fighter jet, both of which purportedly claim to be superior to American counterparts. ..."

http://www.therussianthreat.com/czech-defense-minister-russia-is-orchestrating-muslim-invasion-of-europe/
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From Aug 23, 2015:

"a recent investigation conducted by Novaya Gazeta, one of the few independent newspapers left in Russia, complicates this cozy tale of counterterrorist cooperation. Based on extensive fieldwork in one village in the North Caucasus, reporter Elena Milashina has concluded that the "Russian special services have controlled" the flow of jihadists into Syria, where they have lately joined up not only with ISIS but other radical Islamist factions.

In other words, Russian officials are adding to the ranks of terrorists which the Russian government has deemed a collective threat to the security and longevity of its dictatorial ally on the Mediterranean, Bashar al-Assad."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/23/russia-s-playing-a-double-game-with-islamic-terror0.html
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Understanding Provocation [Provokatsiya]

March 29, 2014

One of the most powerful tools the Kremlin has in its secret arsenal of Special War is provocation, what they call provokatsiya.

While Moscow cannot claim to have invented this technique, which has existed as long as there have been secret services, there's no doubt that Russians have perfected the art and taken it to a whole new level of sophistication and deviousness. At times, it can become a strategy all on its own (not always, mind you, with edifying results).

Provokatsiya simply means taking control of your enemies in secret and encouraging them to do things that discredit them and help you. You plant your own agents provocateurs and flip legitimate activists [in this case, dupe actual Jihadis -ETL], turning them to your side.

When you're dealing with extremists to start with, getting them to do crazy, self-defeating things isn't often difficult. In some cases, you simply create extremists and terrorists where they don't exist. This is causing problems in order to solve them, and since the Tsarist period, Russian intelligence has been known to do just that.

While this isn't a particularly nice technique, it works surprisingly well, particularly if you don't care about bloody and messy consequences. ..."

http://20committee.com/2014/03/29/understanding-provocation/
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In other words, it's like starting a fire, or pouring gasoline on a fire, in order to be the 'big hero', being first on the scene to put it out. Except in this case, you get to grab control over the buildings and town you helped 'saved' from the fire you helped to start.

12 posted on 11/06/2015 7:22:22 AM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better and safer America)
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To: Navy Patriot

if it was the 70’s, I would believe that was a CIA plant story...

But hey, I really don’t trust anyone in government anyway.


14 posted on 11/06/2015 7:23:27 AM PST by hadaclueonce (I thought Ethanol was the devil, now i find it is America is an Oligarchy)
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To: Navy Patriot

Report: Airport worker may have put bomb on Russian airliner

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Duh.


15 posted on 11/06/2015 7:23:52 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Really, it was an airport worker? Damn, there goes my theory that it was the Dhali Llama!

Thanks, Captain Obvious, no one would ever have figured that one out without you.


16 posted on 11/06/2015 7:24:52 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Navy Patriot

We’ll soon find out, the forensics teams will get to the bottom of this - hopefully they will tell us the truth.


17 posted on 11/06/2015 7:25:04 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Navy Patriot

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/23/us/delta-employee-gun-smuggling/

Guns were smuggled onto planes in Atlanta


19 posted on 11/06/2015 7:31:27 AM PST by doug from upland (The ultimate in foolishness -- "'Romney is just as bad as Obama" WTF?)
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To: Navy Patriot

You mean they hire muslims as baggage handlers?


20 posted on 11/06/2015 7:34:12 AM PST by null and void (We are AmeriCANs. We CAN learn, and learn from history, if we choose.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Its not a surprise. We are at risk of such a thing here. There are relaxed security processes for airport workers. This is why there has been so many incidents of theft. Airport workers can normally just swipe in and in most cases they do not even undergo the basic security measures that passengers or flight crews do. Recently 4 workers at DFW were found to be assisting with a drug smuggling operation.

http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/fort-worth/article27325537.html

I remember an incident at Dulles Airport where baggage processing was delayed because a new contracting company was found to be employing large numbers of non citizens.

We are not safe at all. We have a system setup to make people feel safe.

I think airport personnel should under go enhanced security measures. They should have to declare everything they bring in and everything they take out and the lists should be checked to make sure what goes in comes out and with any exceptions noted because it is not the passengers that represent the biggest risk. I used to do fraud investigations and the bulk of the most serious criminal activity was by management/insiders.


23 posted on 11/06/2015 7:48:03 AM PST by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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So White Supremacists and Right Wing Christians work as ground crew in Egypt? Did anyone tell Obama about this?


24 posted on 11/06/2015 7:48:26 AM PST by TTFlyer
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OK The elephant in the room is why would euroweenies spend their vacation time in Egypt or anywhere, except Israel, in the middle east?

British tourists accepted the risks they have now encountered. Why are they blaming everybody but themselves for being stranded in a muzzie caliphate?

32 posted on 11/06/2015 8:35:29 AM PST by pfflier
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