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Will the Roberts court abolish capital punishment?
The Hill ^ | 10/31/2015 | Lydia Wheeler

Posted on 10/31/2015 11:21:15 AM PDT by GIdget2004

The U.S. Supreme Court appears on track to revisit the constitutionality of the death penalty, with recent remarks from justices and world leaders sparking fresh optimism from opponents of capital punishment.

The high court under Chief Justice John Roberts has in recent terms agreed to rule on cases related to how states handle death penalty prosecutions and conduct executions, but has yet to weigh in on whether the practice violates the Eighth Amendment’s prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment.  Some court watchers say that will soon change, pointing to signals suggesting an appetite among some of the justices to delve into that question in the near future, if not this term.

“There is a feeling that this is not a long shot with the court anymore,” said Cassandra Stubbs, director of the American Civil Liberties Union’s Capital Punishment Project. “I think there is no question we have four votes.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chicago; court; crime; deathpenalty; obama; roberts; shootings; violence
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1 posted on 10/31/2015 11:21:15 AM PDT by GIdget2004
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To: GIdget2004

Like abortion, gay rights, there is zero Constitutional Authority to ban executions.

One more reason we need a Congress to impeach those who disregard the authorities granted by our founding document.


2 posted on 10/31/2015 11:23:13 AM PDT by bestintxas (every time a RINO loses, a founding father gets his wings.)
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To: GIdget2004

Liberals who don’t want to play by the rules go and try to change them to benefit their feelings.


3 posted on 10/31/2015 11:26:45 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: GIdget2004

Will they? It depends on whether or not Obama orders them to. He’s the one with the blackmail goods and the goons to carry out the death threats.


4 posted on 10/31/2015 11:27:58 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: GIdget2004

I accept the court for what it is today: a partisan, policy making oligarchy. Having said that, capital punishment isn’t an issue that’s big on my radar. If they abolish it then so be it. After abortion and homomarriage this is a piker of an issue.


5 posted on 10/31/2015 11:28:32 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: GIdget2004

Why not? They’ve knocked over most of the other pillars of just republican self-government.


6 posted on 10/31/2015 11:32:44 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: GIdget2004

Definitely. And for many reasons, just just because the court has bent to the trends of the day and pop culture. In addition several states has abolished the death penalty due to unequal application, many people on death row being exonerated by DNA or other evidence-changing factors, or even corrupt prosecutions ore totally inept defenses. The Bigger issue has become whether it affords Due Process of Law and Equal Protection of the laws. Combine that with efforts to stem the flow of death-dealing drugs used in lethal injections.


7 posted on 10/31/2015 11:33:16 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: GIdget2004
Question: "Will the Roberts court abolish capital punishment?

Answer: Yes.

Comment: "There comes a time in the history of every people when they become so pathologically soft and tender that they actually side with those elements of their society that harms them; i.e criminals"- F. Nietzsche

8 posted on 10/31/2015 11:34:30 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: GIdget2004

I believe Justice Scalia has stated publicly that the Court will abolish the death penalty, that it’s inevitable.

They’ve already said it can’t be meted out to people who’s IQ is too low.


9 posted on 10/31/2015 11:34:36 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: GIdget2004

I wish they’d revisit Obamacare with the same verve.


10 posted on 10/31/2015 11:39:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: GIdget2004
“There is a feeling that this is not a long shot with the court anymore,” said Cassandra Stubbs, director of the American Civil Liberties Union’s Capital Punishment Project. “I think there is no question we have four votes.”

Of course, they have four votes. There is never any doubt about how the court's liberal members will vote.

Once again, though, we will discover that the Constitution means what Justice Anthony M. Kennedy says it means...

11 posted on 10/31/2015 11:40:47 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: . IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: GIdget2004

It is another great slam by the Catholic Court against the narrow minded protestants of this nation.

They need to give us regularly scoldings because we are so morally inferior to them.

—can’t wait to receive the word from on High.


12 posted on 10/31/2015 11:40:55 AM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent / Cruz 2016)
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To: GIdget2004
Will the Roberts court abolish capital punishment?
If that's what Øbama wants, that's what they'll do.
13 posted on 10/31/2015 11:42:39 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: JPX2011

I understand why you would say that. But in fact they’re all interconnected. We’re talking about the fundamentals of the laws of nature and nature’s God.

Folks should read Genesis chapter nine and Romans chapter thirteen very carefully.

In Genesis God gave a command to all mankind that anyone who murders any person be put to death - not just willy-nilly, but by the body of the people. That’s a command that has never been repealed nor revised.

This was the establishment of legitimate human government, with the power of the sword.

God ordained it, as a restraining influence, and as a way to punish evildoers, in other words, to establish justice. Romans spells that out quite well.

Do away with it, and you have breached God’s plan for our blessing and protection.


14 posted on 10/31/2015 11:43:58 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: bestintxas; All
"One more reason we need a Congress to impeach those who disregard the authorities granted by our founding document."

You beat me to it! Give yourself a pat on the back. :^)

15 posted on 10/31/2015 11:46:15 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: SkyDancer

(BTW, the score is still Q to 12.)

16 posted on 10/31/2015 11:46:19 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: lonestar67
It is another great slam by the Catholic Court against the narrow minded protestants of this nation.

Well, I wasn't going to take it there, but since you brought it up there's something to be said, negatively, for the obsession held in protestant circles for the, "hang 'em high" mentality.

Rather unbecoming for so-called Christians to revel and be celebratory in death. No wonder Catholics have a problem taking Protestants seriously when they discuss pro-life issues. After all, Harry Blackmun was a Methodist, not a Catholic.

17 posted on 10/31/2015 11:47:51 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: JPX2011
I agree with you. If anything, I'd suggest that capital punishment ought to be outlawed under other circumstances (not through a Supreme Court decision on "constitutional" grounds).

My rationale is that a nation that can produce Bill Clinton, ObamaCare, constitutional protection for infanticide, and "homosexual marriage" has no moral authority to even put people in jail, let alone execute them.

18 posted on 10/31/2015 11:53:20 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: shalom aleichem
unequal application,

Simply untrue.

many people on death row being exonerated by DNA

If by "many" you mean abut two. DNA "evidence" has been used to call some verdicts "into question." It has not resulted in more than a few reversals, because most of the time it's a contamination argument, but there is other perfectly good evidence against the supposedly "innocent" convicts.

or other evidence-changing factors,

The "other" evidence changing factors are invariably recanted testimony. Recanted testimony is, as even such a liberal eminence as Oliver Wendell Holmes observed, "complete rubbish." During a trial, there is tremendous pressure on material witnesses to tell the truth. After sentencing, there is tremendous pressure on them to lie, especially if they live in a community that regards the rule of law with suspicion.

or even corrupt prosecutions

Cite one.

ore totally inept defenses.

We have an appeals process to rectify that, and no shortage of ACLU and other bleeding-heart progtards willing to take those cases pro bono, in addition to a jailhouse legal network that knows quite well how to game the system.

Your "objections" to the death penalty are nothing more than the usual liberal litany of lies against it. Post this drivel somewhere they believe in it.

19 posted on 10/31/2015 12:11:38 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Eat pork: Annoy the UN.)
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To: JPX2011
Except that the Constitution explicitly mentions it, so it couldn't have been regarded as a cruel or unusual form of punishment at the time it was ratified. Nor has it been at any time since.
20 posted on 10/31/2015 12:14:23 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Eat pork: Annoy the UN.)
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