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Yet, with an international climate-change deal at the United Nations Paris summit hanging in the balance, fossil fuel suppliers and Republicans who enable them are pulling out all the stops to persuade the rest of the world that American promises to scale back pollution are politically unfeasible and not serious.


Praise the Lord. The Republicans are finally showing some testicular fortitude and doing something right by telling Obama he ain't a king.

1 posted on 10/30/2015 7:30:57 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

I’m sure that UN summit is gonna go really well after Vlad Putin came out the other day and said that climate change is total BS.


2 posted on 10/30/2015 7:35:53 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Don’t get your hopes up just yet. They’ve pretty much (the republicant’s) shown us that they’ll fold if some lib assclown confronts them head on. But I hope you’re right. This glow-bull bull, is a whole lot of bull. Gettin kinda fed up with the “settled science” crap. “We’re right and we don’t have to show you why, just take our word for it.” ain’t doin’ much for me. Still hoping for a massive record breaking blizzard in gay paris at the end of the month.


3 posted on 10/30/2015 7:36:21 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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Hey, someone at SacBee, go to Yosemite. Look at the exhibits. Read how it was formed.

A few thousand years ago (long before SUV and coal burning plants) Yosemite was under miles of ice.

Where did it go and why?

Climate changes, man has nothing to do with it.

Destroying our economy to make a few elite rich is not an agenda a reputable newspaper should be pushing.


4 posted on 10/30/2015 7:37:29 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (Nothing to add at the moment)
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Praise the Lord. The Republicans are finally showing some testicular fortitude and doing something right by telling Obama he ain't a king.

Don't count on it being real or lasting more than a day or two.

5 posted on 10/30/2015 7:37:36 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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Why does nobody ask these clown how they believe their “solution” will actually make a difference? They can’t quantify it one iota.

Then, they could be asked how their precious models have fared against actual empirical data, after the “solution” is exposed for being the money grab it is.


8 posted on 10/30/2015 7:41:27 AM PDT by MortMan (The rule of law is now the law of rulings - Judicial, IRS, EPA...)
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The warmists manipulated ground based weather station data enough to declare that 2014 was the “hottest year on record”. It was shown within hours that even using their own corrupted data that their were several years that may have been warmer because the margin of error was far greater than the difference between the temperature record of the years. The raw data and satellite data sets did not concur with the adjusted ground based records.

Interestingly the number of ground based stations located in rural areas away from the “urban heat island effect” have dropped dramatically in the past 20 years. One would think that with the hundreds of billions of dollars being spent studying “climate change” that the number of these stations would be increasing. The data from these stations mostly has showed a cooling trend however over the past couple decades so they were eliminated.

The study of “Climate change” is a political not a scientific endeavor. The original “climategate” emails several years ago which showed unethical behavior from the climate scientist/activist key players showed this in dramatic fashion. I thought then that sanity would be allowed to return, but even after nearly 20 years of no statistically significant warming the drones march on to the beat of their slave master liberal politicians.


11 posted on 10/30/2015 7:56:42 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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I have yet to have any climate ninny explain to me just exactly what the proper climate should be. Where in Earth’s history, even pre-human, was the proper thermostatic setting?


12 posted on 10/30/2015 7:57:01 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (I got nothin'.)
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13 posted on 10/30/2015 7:57:21 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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How long before Obama takes Military action against these Red States ?


15 posted on 10/30/2015 8:04:10 AM PDT by butlerweave
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Well, environmental regs hurt businesses, so I’m sure their bosses at the Chamber of Commerce gave them marching orders.


17 posted on 10/30/2015 8:50:02 AM PDT by Boogieman
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No bias detected here! SacBee editors have drunk way too much Kool-Aid.


18 posted on 10/30/2015 8:53:05 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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“Time for a united front on climate change”

Agreed. We need to stop this foolish nonsense of thinking we can alter a process that has been RADICALLY changing the Earth for over a billion years. We might as well try to stop earthquakes or alter the tides.


19 posted on 10/30/2015 9:32:22 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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[[Praise the Lord. The Republicans are finally showing some testicular fortitude]]

Don’t get your hopes up too fast- red states USUALLY do thism, then they cave as soon as the government threatens to withhold federal funds


20 posted on 10/30/2015 9:38:21 AM PDT by Bob434
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Inhofe, a climate denier...

I stopped reading there. People who have as little respect for the English language than they do for science are not worth the time.

By "united front" these people mean that no dissent will be allowed. Or else. The Sacramento Bee is cribbing from Der Sturmer here...

22 posted on 10/30/2015 9:45:47 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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LIES About 'Man-Caused' Global Warming

1: Man-made CO2 emissions throughout human history amounts to less than 0.00022 percent of the total CO2 from the earth's mantle.

2:Warming happens 800 years BEFORE CO2rises (This alone refutes the LIE that CO2 causes climate change)

3: Despite a huge surge in CO2 in the 30's and 40's, temperatures actually dropped for 4 decades afterwards (again proving CO2does not cause warming)

4: The atmosphere contains just 0.0036% CO2 produced by man (FAR too little CO2 to do anything- it's simply impossible for such a small amount to affect global climates)

5: The atmosphere contains just 0.04% CO2 produced by nature and man combined (again, an amount that is FAR too small to cause any change in global climates)

6: Most of the tiny amount of heat captured by atmospheric CO2 gets radiated out to space, not back to earth

7: What little heat actually gets back radiated to earth quickly reaches equilibrium because there is so little of it compared to earth's air (which is now cooler and overwhelms the tiny amount of warmer air that was back radiated- Think about pouring a cup of 80 Degree water into an Olympic sized pool of 70 Degree water- The warmer water does nothing to affect the overall pool's temperature because there simply is not enough warmer water to change the pool's temps)

8: Ice-core data clearly show that temperatures change centuries before concentrations of atmospheric CO2 change

9: There has been no warming since 1998 DESPITE the fact that CO2 has increased during these two decades (again refuting the idea that "CO2 causes warming")

10: Science shows that it is changing temperatures that raise or lower CO2 levels- NOT the other way around. CO2 does not cause climate change- period.

11: Scientists claim global Wagnerian will result in greater storms, earthquakes and natural disasters, however, over the last century, this has proven untrue

12: The world “warmed” by 0.07 +/- 0.07 degrees C from 1999 to 2008- It did not warm by the .22 that climate scientists claimed that it would

13: It is a lie that CO2 is 'the most abundant greenhouse gas in the atmosphere". Greenhouse gases comprise 3% of the atmosphere- CO2 comprises just 0.04% 14: Today’s CO2 concentration of around 385 ppm is very low. PPM's have been more than 10 times higher in the past

15: The slight increase in temperatures since 1900 is well within the normal range for natural cyclical warming trends

16: While the arctic is currently warming, this is fully inline with natural cyclical warming trends, The antarctic is currently getting colder, which refutes the claim of "global warming"

17: It is a LIE that there is a 'scientific Consensus" that believes that man is causing climate change.

18: It is a LIE to claim that 98% of scientists believe that man is causing climate change. There are over 6000 scientists and professionals who claim man is NOT causing climate change, and only a handful of scientists and professionals who claim man is to blame, and these folks are almost entirely subsidized by the world's governments

19: The science is Not settled! Scientists do not even know all the mechanics behind global warming and cooling trends- But to hear Al Gore speak, one would think that scientists fully understand what changes climates- they do Not!

20: ClimateGate was a blatant attempt to conceal evidence that did not fit the alarmist rallying cries of the left that man is causing climate change. It was a deceitful shameful attempt to sway public opinion using lies created by hiding evidence

21: Climate has always changed, and it always will. Claiming that prior to the industrial revolution the Earth had a “stable” climate is a LIE.

22: Temperature Measurements made via weather balloons and satellites since the late 1950s show that there has been no atmospheric warming.

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23 posted on 10/30/2015 9:47:24 AM PDT by Bob434
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Rather than just continuing to argue about whether or not the Earth is warming we need to demand the alarmists describe their remedy. Even if we end ALL carbon emissions it would take centuries to stop the warming according to the alarmists. I guarantee people will be outraged at having to close all power plants, give up their cars, planes, beef, home heating/cooling etc. for no gain. FORCE THE ALARMISTS TO ADMIT WHAT THEY WANT. Its not just relacing incandescent bulbs and using ethanol in gas.


30 posted on 10/30/2015 11:04:25 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientifictechnological elite. - Eisenhower’s “Military-Industrial Complex” Speech

31 posted on 10/30/2015 12:59:39 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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Jan the man speaking at U of California...”it’s a moral imperative.” LOL Democrats hate morals as much as they hate human life and American freedom. They are manipulators and liars.

With agenda 2030, their solution to the non-problem of the Climate daring to change, they can force homosexuality on everyone, kill a ton of people and end american freedom with the stroke of a pen, all based on deceit.


32 posted on 10/31/2015 9:00:02 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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