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Ben Carson's Quiet Health Care Revelation: Big Government Still Has a Role
American Thinker ^ | 10/28/2015 | By Ann Kane and M. Catharine Evans

Posted on 10/28/2015 7:53:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

A huge chunk of the U.S. economy is tied up in health care ($3.8 trillion annually). Presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson doesn’t stray far from big government’s role, and suggests taking the money that’s already there and redistributing it into new programs.

What is Carson’s health reform plan? The presidential candidate’s position pivots on four main points: health savings accounts, catastrophic insurance, keeping Medicare and removing the middleman, aka bureaucrats and/or insurance companies.

If you listen to Carson, you soon find his overall ideas haven’t changed much from many years ago, but he has fine-tuned details over time. For example, in the past he called for a $2,000 per person per year infusion of cash collected by the government into health savings accounts so Americans can take control of their own healthcare needs. Carson held that HSA’s would get rid of the need for Medicare because an individual’s health insurance would no longer be tied to his employer. But now he says Medicare and HSAs can coexist, with both programs simultaneously feeding off the public trough.

Despite his evolving positions on healthcare, Carson remains steady in his contention that HSAs would eliminate the “middle-man” in the patient-doctor relationship. In the past, Carson singled out “for profit insurance companies” as the culprit, stating unequivocally in 2010, “the first thing we need to do is get rid of” them; now he simply defines middle-men as “bureaucrats.”

In 2010, 14 years after his 1996 proposal that we needed a government-run catastrophic fund supported by a mandatory contribution of 10 to 15 percent of the profits of each health insurance company, Carson ratcheted up his radical approach with an even more radical suggestion.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bencarson; carson; elections; government; healthcare

1 posted on 10/28/2015 7:53:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

No, government has ZERO role. None.

The healthcare markets do not need government intervention whatsoever. It is government that screwed it up in the first place.


2 posted on 10/28/2015 7:58:17 AM PDT by CodeToad (Stupid kills, but not nearly enough!)
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To: SeekAndFind

[If you listen to Carson, you soon find his overall ideas haven’t changed much from many years ago]

ABORTION
When asked if he would support abortion in the case of incest or rape, Dr. Carson said, “I would hope that they would very quickly avail themselves of the emergency room, and in the emergency room, they have the ability to administer RU-486 and other possibilities before you have a developing fetus.” RU-486 is an abortifacient that kills a fertilized egg by artificially denying it the ability to attach to the uterine wall. Using Dr. Carson’s own standard of life beginning at conception, this would then constitute murder. (Politico)

BEN CARSON - ON MEDICAL CARE FOR THE ELDERLY
(He’s for a panel to decide which seniors deserve life saving treatment/end of life care, and which ones don’t)

[[Our mind-set is to automatically pull out all medical stops—even if that means literally torturing loved ones during their last few months of life. What if rather than always putting terminally ill patients in intensive care units—where we poke, prod, test, and operate ad nauseum—we allowed most people the dignity of dying in relative peace and comfort, at home, surrounded by loved ones, with hospice care or some other medical attendant if necessary? Agreement on who should be treated and who should not be treated would require an extensive national discussion that could hopefully result in some helpful basic guidelines. Obviously any such guidelines should allow for flexibility and choice. And decisions should be based not merely on age but on the viability of the patient. (From his 1999 book, The Big Picture.)]]


3 posted on 10/28/2015 7:59:07 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Last week he said he wanted to get rid of Medicare - no qualifiers.


4 posted on 10/28/2015 7:59:34 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: SeekAndFind

Is Carson a single payer guy? WTH!!!!
Another one who thinks that the govt. should suite up and get into the game. I’m very disappointed.


5 posted on 10/28/2015 7:59:51 AM PDT by phs3 (FUBO)
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To: CodeToad

and yet, your boy, has criticized Carson for taking too much big government out of health care. Damn, a dilemma for you aint it? Or not.


6 posted on 10/28/2015 8:06:43 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: SeekAndFind

Both he and Trump are of this mind on the issue.

Frankly there may be no other choice. Obamacare has been allowed to ramble down the highway too far, thanks to the GOP and John Roberts.


7 posted on 10/28/2015 8:12:23 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“not.”

Trump has convictions and the ability to learn. Carson just says what is politically expedient.


8 posted on 10/28/2015 8:38:40 AM PDT by CodeToad (Stupid kills, but not nearly enough!)
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To: CodeToad

I would be embarrassed to have said the two things you’ve said on this thread so far. It makes absolutely no sense and there is absolutely no intellectual consistency to it.

Infantile. Embarrassing. Nonsensical.


9 posted on 10/28/2015 8:46:38 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: SeekAndFind

OMGOSH...another obuma....look at his past, look at his beliefs...he is another obuma....


10 posted on 10/28/2015 8:48:34 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, and hope you do too!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

So, now he is for keeping Medicare.

Just last week, he was for dumping it completely in favor of those cradle-to-the-grave $2000/yr government provided health accounts.

[Where does government get the $2000 per person to distribute?]


11 posted on 10/28/2015 8:58:08 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Abby4116
Last week he said he wanted to get rid of Medicare - no qualifiers.

Please provide one direct quote from Ben Carson saying that - not a quote from an article that CLAIMS he said it, but a direct quote in his own words, including the citation. Since you are making such a definitive statement, you should be prepared to back it up.

12 posted on 10/28/2015 9:09:45 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: CA Conservative
He proposes, for example, to replace more than just Obamacare with his plan for health savings accounts. He also wants his plan to replace all health insurance except for catastrophic coverage. He even wants it to replace Medicare—the extraordinarily popular health program for the elderly.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/05/08/maverick-candidate-ben-carsons-no-brainer-offer.html

video at 2:00

13 posted on 10/28/2015 9:44:34 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: phs3

The problem with Carson is that none of the other candidates are challenging him. They are afraid that they will look bad. That’s how Obama got elected.

Tonight Trump needs to start pointing out some of Carson’s weakness’s as he has so much to choose from.


14 posted on 10/28/2015 9:47:47 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Abby4116

I asked you to provide a quote from Ben Carson supporting your claim that last weekend he said he wanted to “get rid of Medicare - no qualifiers”. Instead, you give me an article from CNBC from 5 months ago, and the most Carson says is he believes that HSA’s could replace Medicaid and Medicare. There is a vast difference between what you stated as a fact, and what was actually said and when...


15 posted on 10/28/2015 10:12:19 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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