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Justice Department to Investigate Officer’s Flipping of High School Student
New York Times ^ | 10/27/2015 | RICHARD FAUSSET

Posted on 10/27/2015 12:23:54 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd

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To: Timber Rattler

If you believe her friends in the class. Heck little St Skittles and Gentle Giant were both described as kind to their mothers and not someone that would ever behave badly.

The fact she behaved in such a bad manner that the teacher directed her to leave the room, that she then refused the teachers direction to leave the room, admin would be in no position to ‘make her leave.’ Police needed to be called. This not the old days where a student respected authority and could suffer consequences administered by a teacher or admin. . .both are powerless, the police were the only option.


61 posted on 10/27/2015 3:17:43 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Timber Rattler

If you believe her friends in the class. Heck little St Skittles and Gentle Giant were both described as kind to their mothers and not someone that would ever behave badly.

The fact she behaved in such a bad manner that the teacher directed her to leave the room, that she then refused the teachers direction to leave the room, admin would be in no position to ‘make her leave.’ Police needed to be called. This not the old days where a student respected authority and could suffer consequences administered by a teacher or admin. . .both are powerless, the police were the only option.


62 posted on 10/27/2015 3:17:48 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Timber Rattler

She refused to give the teacher her phone....guessing she was using it during class.....then the admin. asked her for the phone....that’s when they called in an officer......or do you think some PUNK KID doesn’t have to OBEY AN ORDER from her Superior??? If that’s your definition of Facist, so be it.
Your kids must be angels.


63 posted on 10/27/2015 3:20:00 PM PDT by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Given in that context, you would be 100% correct.
While I have seen rodney king style snippets of the video, the cop looked overboard in what I have viewed.
Alas however, this administration never letting what it can create to be a good crisis going to waste is going to get lots of people wasted when the general population has had enough (and folks ARE getting tired).

As others on this site have repeatedly said over the past years, if it is bad for America you can bet Obama is for it and will stoke it.

Keep your heads on a swivel out there. Beyond the dindu-nuffins and cops with hair triggered tempers it won’t be long now.


64 posted on 10/27/2015 3:22:12 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: oh8eleven

FR popular wisdom: Stop Resisting. Respect authority. Wait for your day in court.

Does that go for this Deputy too?


65 posted on 10/27/2015 3:25:51 PM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (Pictionary at the Rorschach's tonight!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Looked like he handled it pretty well given the behavior that led up to it.
He got the result that was needed with minimum force applied.
Kudos to the cop!


66 posted on 10/27/2015 3:32:45 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: Ann Archy; Hulka
It never ceases to amaze me on this board, when most of us rail day after day against bad LEO behavior and the encroaching police state, that a large portion our FR community suddenly reverses course and is cheering on a muscle-bound, black-uniformed LEO for roughing up a black girl over a relatively minor classroom offense that SHOULD have been handled by the administrators.

GET A GRIP!

And yes, I believe her classmates, especially this young man who recorded the incident, and my lying eyes.

67 posted on 10/27/2015 3:35:54 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Looked like he handled it pretty well given the behavior that led up to it.
He got the result that was needed with minimum force applied.
Kudos to the cop!


68 posted on 10/27/2015 3:40:54 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: Timber Rattler

I work in a school. Without order, there is complete chaos.

We teachers, in my district, have the legal right to move student physically from point A to point B if the student refuses to move after clearly being told. Thank God it doesn’t happen very often, but I did have to physically toss a kid out of my room once and into some bushes (viciously fighting another smaller, weaker student - I was younger then and wouldn’t do it today)

From what I’ve read, this student defied several orders to move by school authorities.

If this is not handled immediately, the other students get the message that they can defy authority on school grounds and suffer no consequences.

Kids then carry this behavior out into the malls, movie theaters - and workplaces. (kids come in “shocked” after being fired from Jack-in-the-Box for in 1/2 hour late and/or calling in sick whenever they don’t feel like working - one employer told me he has a terrible time finding high school kids who will work on Friday, Saturday or Sunday, IOW, the kids want to tell the employer how it’s gonna be).

You can’t imagine how entrenched this attitude is.


71 posted on 10/27/2015 3:42:40 PM PDT by Bon of Babble (In-a-Gadda-Da-Vida, Baby!!)
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Sorry about the triple post...I was dealing with a malware alert...

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l172/kanawa/k5/frmalware_zpsbarlr5ee.jpg

Anyone else getting the same?


72 posted on 10/27/2015 3:45:25 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: 2harddrive

Yep...was wondering if anyone else was getting the same.
Reported it to mod.

Think there was an issue in the not too distant past regarding the same issue


73 posted on 10/27/2015 3:48:57 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: Bon of Babble
What should the cop have done?

22 posts in and only now do I find the right question. Kudos to you!

What the cop SHOULD have done is anything that he would not have arrested anyone else for doing. That's what he should have done.

Had that same cop witnessed someone else doing what he did he may well have shot and killed them. Had that been done to him you KNOW he would have shot and killed the person doing it to him.

It's the double standard is what is getting the cops in trouble. One rule for me and another for thee.

It's also the same problem we're having with the IRS, Hillary Clinton, BLM, Harry Reid, and etc. yet for some reason if the hypocrite wears a badge then too many people on FR will blame the victim.

The problem is unaccountable government and unaccountable government agents. Law enforcement, IRS, etc. are all part of the problem and We The People are the solution.

74 posted on 10/27/2015 3:51:48 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: Bon of Babble

I was a school teacher myself about 15 years ago, and had my share of disorderly students, which I generally handled myself. I don’t have a problem with teachers or administrators physically moving them, but I do have a problem with cops tossing around a non-violent teenage girl over a phone in class.


75 posted on 10/27/2015 3:54:02 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: wardaddy

I can tell you this...let’s just say 1978 i was in High School...I obeyed my teachers...and if i din’t here comes the coaches...and if the county sheriff had to show up...well my ass was grass and i knew it.


76 posted on 10/27/2015 4:41:02 PM PDT by chasio649 (The GOPe can never seem to remember who brought them to the dance)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I truly believe Obama is trying to incite race wars so he can establish martial law. Maybe even declare himself dictator for life.


77 posted on 10/27/2015 5:18:45 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady (I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you; God;s promise to Israel)
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To: kanawa

I think someone (the cop’s lawyer maybe) should offer $500 for a video of the language and behavior PRIOR to the cop incident. Every kid in that classroom was filming it, and I’m sure one of them could use a little “walkin around” money. My bet is this sweet young lady had a mouth on her that could be heard all over the school, and a vocabulary of words most of us have never imagined.


78 posted on 10/27/2015 5:41:25 PM PDT by holyscroller ( Without God, America is one nation under)
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To: Wisconsinlady
I truly believe Obama is trying to incite race wars so he can establish martial law. Maybe even declare himself dictator for life.

I've been saying this on here for a few years.

79 posted on 10/27/2015 5:41:40 PM PDT by wastedyears (uchikudake - toki michite - ikiru tame - tokihanate)
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To: Bon of Babble

Get another cop, raze her, use pepper spray, maybe anything other than risk breaking her neck, or concussing her, you know something - anything a bit more reasoned than what he did.

I saw the video, it was way over the top for a response to a verbal refusal.


80 posted on 10/27/2015 6:35:44 PM PDT by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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