‘Pro-Israel’ J Street says Jews not indigenous to Israel

INN ^ | 10/25/2015, 3:53 PM | Ari Soffer

[Olog-hai]

It would seem to be a fairly basic principle for a pro-Israel organization to accept: that the Jewish people is an indigenous nation to the Land of Israel.

Not so for J Street and several other self-defined “liberal Zionist” organizations.

At the World Zionist Congress last week, a proposal entitled “Recognition of the Jewish People as Indigenous to the Land of Israel” was proposed by LAVI, a relatively small but active group of newcomers to the World Zionist Organization’s legislative body that ran in the elections to the congress last year as part of the Alliance for New Zionist Vision (ANZV). […]

But instead of receiving the unanimous support one might expect, the proposal faced dogged and determined opposition from J Street and other liberal factions—much to the incredulity of its supporters. …

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[Parmy]

Then, who is?

[yarddog]

Well Abraham was from UR so I guess that is technically correct.

They have been there since at least the Exodus so at least 3300 years.

[faithhopecharity]

well, you see J Street, you Nazis are, once again, revealing your Nazi identity

The Jews have been in their homeland for over 3000 years.
how long have you been in WashingtonDC, J Street?

(for anyone who doesn’t already know, J Street is a false flag or Nazi front group pretending to be “for the Jews” while lobbying (with tons of Muslim or Soros money) to do all they can to get the Jews butchered en-masse)

[DoughtyOne]

They predate Islam in the region by what, a thousand years?

You know, I feel so sorry for the Arabs, all that great expansive area over there and no place of their own.

NOT!

[Lisbon1940]

Hey FHC, Christians calling Jews Nazis is pretty ugly, even if the Jews are liberals. Most of them had family members killed by Nazis, unlike you.

[yarddog]

Well the Arabs are also Semitic. They are children of Abraham too. They split off from the Jews through.

However Islam only dates to what? Maybe 500AD?

[dfwgator]

They are the modern-day Kapos.

[DoughtyOne]

Exactly. And what we’re talking about isn’t just Arabs over there any longer. It’s a global cult with different abhorrent sects.

[fieldmarshaldj]

They’re worse than Nazis. They support genocide of their own kind.

[Phinneous]

1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth. אבְּרֵאשִׁית בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם וְאֵת הָאָרֶץ: (RaShI, Rabbi Shlomo Yitzchaki's commentary, 11th century France) In the beginning: Said Rabbi Isaac: It was not necessary to begin the Torah except from “This month is to you,” (Exod. 12:2) which is the first commandment that the Israelites were commanded, (for the main purpose of the Torah is its commandments, and although several commandments are found in Genesis, e.g., circumcision and the prohibition of eating the thigh sinew, they could have been included together with the other commandments). Now for what reason did He commence with “In the beginning?” Because of [the verse] “The strength of His works He related to His people, to give them the inheritance of the nations” (Ps. 111:6). For if the nations of the world should say to Israel, “You are robbers, for you conquered by force the lands of the seven nations [of Canaan],” they will reply, "The entire earth belongs to the Holy One, blessed be He; He created it (this we learn from the story of the Creation) and gave it to whomever He deemed proper When He wished, He gave it to them, and when He wished, He took it away from them and gave it to us.

[traderrob6]

With all due respect, there were Jewish collaborators in Nazi Germany.

J Street is not wholly dissimilar.

[yarddog]

Yes Abraham and Sarah disobeyed the Lord and had Abraham impregnate Hagar who was Sarah’s handmaid. Thus Ishmail was born and all this pain is a result of Abraham and Sarah not trusing God.

Ishmael was the first Arab.

[DoughtyOne]

Yes, I agree with that.

[fishtank]

The Exodus was 1400 BC

[Lisbon1940]

I’m sure you would all appreciate people insulting Christians. You don’t know what went on in the camps and ghettos, yet you are quick to condemn people who did what they thought was best for themselves and their families.

[Lera]

“Well the Arabs are also Semitic. They are children of Abraham too. They split off from the Jews through.

However Islam only dates to what? Maybe 500AD?”

The Arabs might be Abraham’s children but the land of Israel was given to Jacob’s children. The Arabs were given their own lands and they are NOT Jacob’s children and the land of Israel and Jerusalem does NOT belong to them .

[Amendment10]

Thank you for referencing that article Olog-hai. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

"It would seem to be a fairly basic principle for a pro-Israel organization to accept: that the Jewish people is an indigenous nation to the Land of Israel."

I don’t know where the author of the referenced article is coming from. Multiple OT verses (Exodus 33:1-2, Leviticus 20:23 and other verses) indicate that God told Moses that God was driving out the pagan nations from the land that God had promised to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

But it is nonetheless irrelevant that Israel is not indigenous to the “Land of Israel” because God gave it to them.

[Phinneous]

Amendment10 you sound like a student of Rashi (see my post above.) G-d gave it to Canaan....then took it from them and gave it to the Jews. A Jew past or present need not quote anything else or seek any other rationalization or excuse.