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Actually, Canada, health care isn’t ‘free’
Globe and Mail ^ | 10/26/2015 | Andre Picard

Posted on 10/26/2015 1:28:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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SCC decision that oddly , only applies to Quebec:

Chaoulli v. Quebec

Chaoulli v. Quebec (Attorney General) involved a patient who had to wait several months for hip replacement surgery. Together with his physician, Dr. Jacques Chaoulli, the two challenged the Quebec law that prohibited private health care insurance for publicly insured health services. They argued that these provisions offended rights guaranteed by the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and its Quebec equivalent. Although the case was dismissed by both the trial court and the Quebec appeal court, the Supreme Court agreed to allow an appeal, which it heard on June 8, 2004.

On June 9, 2005, by a majority of 4-3, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that Quebec’s ban on private insurance for publicly insured health care services violates the Quebec Charter of human rights and freedoms. Three of the same four judges also concluded that the ban violated the Canadian Charter, while three judges held that it did not, with the seventh judge not voicing an opinion on the matter. As a result, while the Court ruled that there was a violation of the Quebec Charter, it did not rule that there was a violation of the Canadian Charter

http://www.canadiandoctorsformedicare.ca/the-chaoulli-decision.html


41 posted on 10/26/2015 3:41:31 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Free” health care isn’t worth much if you must wait months to see a doctor, & months more still to get needed treatment. Sick people often die from lack of treatment. How many illnesses can be treated successfully if detected early? How many will suffer & die without early detection?

There are 2 reasons for long wait times - too many patients & too few doctors, clinics, & hospitals. The author dwells on the former while ignoring the latter which is entirely controlled by the government.

Government could double the amount of medical staffs & services, cutting wait times in half, but probably doubling national costs. Add in the inevitable huge, expensive, inefficient government bureaucracy (staffed by cronyism & patronage) needed to manage such a system & ultimately, wait times, poor care, & stifling bureaucracy will continuously increase, as will suffering & death.

So, it boils down to this: The government bureaucracy decides who lives & who dies by the level of funding it provides. That funding level is dependent on lying, self-serving, clueless politicians, the worst management possible. Government health care will only get worse, as witnessed in Britain, where patients die in hospital halls from neglect & call relatives/friends begging for food & water; in other words, third world health care.


42 posted on 10/26/2015 3:43:44 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Actually, the article endorses the Canadian system, just not calling it “free.”


43 posted on 10/26/2015 3:55:06 PM PDT by cookcounty ("I was a Democrat until I learned to count" --Maine Gov. Paul LePage)
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To: originalbuckeye
My daughter is an ER nurse. Overuse and abuse occur ALL THE TIME.

I will not go into detail about which ethnic groups (hint, mainly "new Canadians") are most apt to abuse the system. Coming to an ER near you.

44 posted on 10/26/2015 4:58:54 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Buy gold, silver, land, guns, and ammo.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nothing the government provides is free - it’s just paid for remotely by taxpayers’ money....


45 posted on 10/26/2015 9:04:04 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: SeekAndFind

Not very long ago, one could argue that although Canada health-care was “free” to its users, with the many attendant problems of long waiting times, particularly for chronic conditions, their system forced Canadians who could afford it, to go to the United States for treatment.

I have no doubt that has changed greatly under Obamacare. The US Government under Obama is speeding up destruction of US healthcare. We now not only have expensive health-care, it has become sub-standard care also.


46 posted on 10/26/2015 9:17:10 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Wolfie; AmusedBystander; SeekAndFind
The taxes are about the same between the two countries. Canada gets healthcare, we get a Roman-style military.

The US spends $3.2 Trillion collectively on health care, about 17% of GDP. On the other hand, the US spends about $620 billion on Defense, about 3% of GDP. You could cut whatever amount you wished, so that Americans would have a "Canadian-style military," with no submarines able to go to sea, or the inability to deploy a fully-functional brigade overseas - and that money would not make one jot of difference in the massive, inefficient, super-expensive, proto-fascist health-care system that is Obamacare.

47 posted on 10/26/2015 9:33:55 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind
My liberal friend just cited a working class guy who was given a bill for $5,000 just to have his child delivered. They work hard but cannot get ahead in life, do you want them to die? Where’s your compassion?

The same person who paid for it in 1939....if you're going to have children, haave the money of insurance to pay for it. In this day and age there is NO excuse for not having health and life insurance....cheap and widely available.

I fully understand that welfare is necessary for those who fall through the cracks, but there should be a VERY small number of those, not 30% of the population.

Hillary and Sanders want cradle to grave control of the people and will give it to them by taxing those of us who provide for ourselves.

48 posted on 10/30/2015 7:27:44 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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