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To: Cronos
This was not about socialism v/s capitalism.

Yeah, in Europe, it's either leftwing Socialism (Communism) or rightwing Socialism (Nazism)

17 posted on 10/25/2015 11:35:13 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
No. You're making things way too simplistic -- putting people into communist or nazi buckets

Naziism is a specific form of fascism that was based on race theories -- NO ONE is promoting this in any way in Europe except for fringe parties

The form promoted by PiS is about helping the elderly poor in Poland and for young couples

I am against welfare, but Poland has a unique case due to communism -- well, all ex-communist countries (bar China now) has this problem. They just don't know how to work with banking and other activities in the modern world. For example, when Poland opened up, people didn't understand the concept of marketing/advertisements -- they believed it as the truth!

And, the people who were 40+ in 1990 (collapse of communism), they don't know how to work in this system and they didn't have a chance to save any money, and their state pension (they didn't have any real savings under communism -- banks were theives) is pitiful, not possible to live on that -- we pay something called a ZUS, which is for medical and pension. I consider it a tax as I won't see the money, but I see it as necessary to help the people in their 60s and 70s and above who worked most of their lives under communism with no savings and no idea HOW to save or even an opportunity to save.

20 posted on 10/26/2015 4:46:11 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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