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1 posted on 10/23/2015 7:25:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I love Ben, but wonder if he could destroy Hillary like Trump or Cruz would.

Nominee needs to be able to neutralize her or he won’t even get in office........


2 posted on 10/23/2015 7:27:02 AM PDT by Arlis ( A "Sacred Cow" Tipping Christian)
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Something obviously happened in IA. Gotta wonder how all these "evangelicals" elected Tom Dung Heap Harkin.

On the other hand, this hardly fits the Cruzers' narrative that he is taking IA.

3 posted on 10/23/2015 7:27:12 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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Carson can have Iowa. Trump will still win NH. And all the others will drop out like flies.


5 posted on 10/23/2015 7:29:36 AM PDT by Helicondelta
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Evangelicals, wouldn't they be a better fit for Ted Cruz?

Is the disgust for career politicians so great that they would rather vote for Ben Carson than Ted Cruz?

Still not sure what to make of the Carson surge. I'm sure there's something to it as I see the enthusiasm on Twitter and other social media. Still a lot of unknowns about the guy. Reminds me of where we were four years ago at this very time with Herman Cain.

6 posted on 10/23/2015 7:30:02 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (Businessmen use their own money to succeed. Politicians take other people's money and fail.)
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I don't believe this nonsense. Simply the Media's way to try and destroy and discourage all the Trump enthusiasm.

Carson seems to be believing it now as his EGO has emboldened him to finally expose his BLACKNESS and his admiration for AL Sharpton.........

Playing the race card early, catching onto O's coattails. Wrong move Carson............

10 posted on 10/23/2015 7:31:05 AM PDT by annieokie
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Evangelical is a buzz word used by the libs’ which means Christians or people of faith. Sounds to me like the Christians are being very vocal in these states and I love it!


11 posted on 10/23/2015 7:31:22 AM PDT by WyCoKsRepublican
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Now, we know why the Iowa Corn Whores faux conservatives for ethanol favor Carson.

Carson favors burning food as an expensive and worthless gasoline additive, which needs our tax $’s to subsidized this bs.

May 10, 2015 - Ben Carson: Let’s slash Big Oil to pay for ethanol ... final cut pro x royalty-free sound effects · Da Tech Guy Blog » Blog Archive » Ben Carson in ...
Carson in Iowa: Use oil subsidies for ethanol | TheHill
thehill.com/.../24117-carson-in-iowa-use-oil-subsidies-for-etha...
The Hill

May 6, 2015 - Newly minted Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson told an Iowa ... oil industry subsidies to pay for new ethanol blending stations.


17 posted on 10/23/2015 7:38:05 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Pass the popcorn, set back/and watch Russia destroy Isis in Syria and Iran idoing the same in Iraq.)
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Iowa is a crazy place, they voted for 0bama in the caucuses and twice in the general. I suspect that many or even the majority of Iowans are white guilters, and will vote for any black on the ballot.

Iowa is, after all, the home of Jane Elliott, that old fool who came up with the “anti-racism” program to have her students target people with blue eyes for discrimination, and abuse.


23 posted on 10/23/2015 7:48:36 AM PDT by euram
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Are these the same folks who stayed home over Romney and helped give us Obuckwheat?

If those people aren't careful...they'll give us Hillary.

If they give us Hillary...they're gonna be going onto my LIST.

And you don't want to be on the LIST...or in me BOOK!

Tread wisely.

24 posted on 10/23/2015 7:49:33 AM PDT by JEDI4S (I don't mean to cause trouble...it just happens naturally through the Force!)
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Presidents Rick Santorum (’12) and Mike Huckabee (’08) can attest that winning the primary in IA is very important to a successful presidential run.
25 posted on 10/23/2015 7:49:42 AM PDT by JPG (What's the difference between the Rats and the GOPe? Nothing.)
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I am left wondering how the top 2 contenders in the Republican field were so recently Democrats.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/4/ben-carson-officially-switches-parties-returns-gop/

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/21/politics/donald-trump-election-democrat/


26 posted on 10/23/2015 7:51:20 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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Freeper Red Steel discovered that Carson's numbers are only up because these were push polls. This poll was designed to get Ben Carson ahead of Donald Trump. Bloomberg and the Des Moines Register asked a serious of questions that are overwhelmingly favorable for Carson.

It's a big time push poll:

27 posted on 10/23/2015 7:54:21 AM PDT by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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Carson just recently said he would replace medicare (and medicad) with a $2,000 a year Medical Savings Account. I don’t think seniors are going to be happy about that.


37 posted on 10/23/2015 8:18:30 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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Carson is a likable guy, but Hillary will obliterate him in a general election. 40 state landslide territory.

I think Trump is the best chance a GOPer has to beat Hillary in the general election. He’ll at least effectively take the fight to the liberals, not let them dictate the language of the debate and narrative, and otherwise fight back.

We shall see.


38 posted on 10/23/2015 8:19:52 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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57% of Iowans who vote in this caucus self-identify as Evangelicals way way above true GOP rank and file numbers. Anyone who things Carson will be the nominee is fooling himself.


41 posted on 10/23/2015 8:28:37 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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Wow, I betcha those pollsters have never spent so much time in church...


42 posted on 10/23/2015 8:36:47 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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The Marxist Media controls the polls. Trump doesn't realize that.

Trump did the pollsters a favor by legitimizing them, by citing the polls over-and-over again.

The media paid pollsters used Trump to push out Cruz.

Now comes the anti Trump pollster push.

And Trump and his supporters can't complain about it.

43 posted on 10/23/2015 8:41:30 AM PDT by FreeReign
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this could very well be the first prong of the united elite’s vow to take down trump in a coordinated effort. some bowling green outfit posted their first poll of the cycle a few days ago with carson leading.

there might be some nasty direct mail stuff under the radar the way there was about callista gingrich.

trump will prevail don’t doubt it.


48 posted on 10/23/2015 8:59:23 AM PDT by true believer forever (Lord, Give me this mountain.)
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It can’t be much of a surprise that evangelicals would prefer Carson to Trump. Carson being SDA will likely influence many, though.

Given the challenges of polling in these times, all of them need to be taken with a large grain of salt. IIRC this’d last poll relief on phone polling which is greatly problematic.


50 posted on 10/23/2015 8:59:51 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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For all those that find the Iowa Caucus
procedures as arcane as the initiation rites of The Mystic Knights of the Sea, I offer the link to a 2012 article.

http://m.theweek.com/articles/479139/idiosyncratic-iowa-caucus-rules-guide

excerpt:

The ‘Idiosyncratic’ Iowa Caucus Rules: A Guide

On Tuesday night, Iowa Republicans will gather at 1,774 locations around the state to kick off the 2012 presidential election, through an “idiosyncratic” caucus process with origins at least as old as the United States. Unlike more straightforward primary elections, the voters who brave the cold Iowa winter to spend a weekday evening politicking won’t award any delegates to the winning candidates. Adding to the unusual nature of the caucuses, each of Iowa’s 1,774 precincts gets to set its own rules. Still, despite the quirks and arcane rules, “Iowans stand by their caucuses,” says Elizabeth Hartfield at ABC News. Here, a guide to the proud, strange Hawkeye State electoral tradition:

How do the caucuses work?
Caucus participants gather at their local precinct meeting place — usually a school, library, church, or other public space, but sometimes a private home — by 7 p.m. Then, after reciting the Pledge of Allegiance and electing a caucus chairman and secretary, the caucusgoers listen to a brief endorsement speech by a surrogate from any campaign that sends a representative. Then Iowans vote: Republicans note their preference by secret ballot, usually a blank slip of paper. The votes are counted in public, read aloud, then phoned in to the state GOP, which tallies the statewide results and releases them.

Who can participate?
Any registered Republican who lives in the precinct and will be 18 by Election Day. But since state law allows voters to switch registration at the caucuses themselves, the event is effectively open to all interested voters. Turnout isn’t usually very large, though. In 2008, about 120,000 people cast ballots in the Iowa GOP caucuses — roughly 21 percent of active registered Republicans — while 227,000 Democrats caucused to decide that year’s heated battle between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Political analysts expect a slight uptick on the GOP side this year....go to link for more.


57 posted on 10/23/2015 9:18:27 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled-...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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