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ObamaCare is entering its dreaded ‘death spiral’
New York Post ^ | 10/20/2015 | By Betsy McCaughey

Posted on 10/20/2015 8:44:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

ObamaCare is heading toward a death spiral.

The Obama administration is having trouble selling insurance plans to healthy people. That’s a big problem: When the young and healthy don’t enroll, premiums have to be hiked to cover the costs of older, sicker people, discouraging even more young people from signing up.

Last Thursday, the administration predicted enrollment for 2016 will be less than half what the Congressional Budget Office predicted in March.

Despite subsidies to help with premiums and out-of-pocket costs, most of the uninsured who are eligible for ObamaCare are saying “no thanks.” Only one in seven is expected to sign up. That’s despite a hefty increase in the financial penalty next year for not having insurance.

The president sees the writing on the wall. You won’t be seeing the customary nationwide TV campaign to encourage sign-ups, as there were in previous years. Remember the young guy in plaid pajamas — “Pajama Boy,” to conservatives — well, he won’t be back this winter.

Bad enough that healthy people aren’t buying. Worse is that the administration is spending billions of your tax dollars covering up the problem, paying insurers to keep offering the plans, even though they’re losing their shirts. But facts are facts — and there’s no hiding these.

Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Burwell predicts ObamaCare enrollment will inch up by 1 million or so, to 10 million people — half what the CBO forecasted. Open enrollment for the coming year, which begins Nov. 1, “is going to be a challenge,” she said.

David Wichmann, UnitedHealth Group’s president, announced higher premiums last week because enrollees will “require more medical services than original expectations.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathspiral; obamacare
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1 posted on 10/20/2015 8:44:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
premiums have to be hiked

The dirty little secret is that not only do health insurance premiums go up but so do Home Insurance Premiums, Auto Insurance Premiums, Liability Insurance Premimus...etc.

2 posted on 10/20/2015 8:49:11 AM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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Yep, but for retirees dependent on social security, no cost of living increases because the GOVERNMENT tells us there is NO INFLATION !!


3 posted on 10/20/2015 8:51:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Impossible. It is all free


4 posted on 10/20/2015 8:52:24 AM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: SeekAndFind

Since I don’t do Obamacare, I am unaware of the mechanics for sign-up. Is there a window with which you must purchase a policy or can it be at any time during the year? If the latter, what is to prevent people from signing up Dec 30/31 and then cancelling the policy Jan 1/2 in order to avoid IRS penalty?


5 posted on 10/20/2015 8:53:33 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: All

Pelosi was orgasmic at the O/Care signing. Ut, oh. Harry's hands are not visible.

The Obamacare atrocity was a cunning vehicle for
consolidating Dummycrat power. Dems cashed-in bigtime.

(A) Michelle's buddy---botched the billion dollar web site rollout---still doesn't work.

(B) Harry Reid's $4 billion "accidental" payment to Landrieu is a clue to how the straight party-line vote got this atrocity passed.

(C) A multi-billion dollar slush fund---the Untraceable $8 Billion ObamaCare PR Budget---truly govt fraud at its finest.

Egged on by Pelosi, no one in Congress told Americans about Section 4002---which mandates an $8B untraceable fund to "promote" Obamacare (apparently b/c Boobamba had so little confidence in his signature legislation).

In 2010 Taxpayers are extorted $500 million, in 2011, $750 million, 2012, $1 billion, 2013, $1.25 billion, 2014, $1.5 billion and in 2015 and on, $2 billion........

....the reasons for all those O/Care delays, fixits, exemptions, waivers, extensions, etc, are becoming crystal clear.

6 posted on 10/20/2015 8:53:50 AM PDT by Liz
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To: SeekAndFind

Dreaded? Nope. Planned. When it crashes, the “only solution” is single payer. As intended.


7 posted on 10/20/2015 8:53:56 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Everyone entering NRA offices come out alive. Not so Planned Parenthood.)
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To: SeekAndFind
death spiral

OK but what makes anyone think, with America $18 trillion dollars in the hole and falling, that the "leaders" in DC who created this mess will suddenly become eager to fix anything budget-wise ?

To them, debts and deficits, red as they may be, are nothing more than images on a page

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8 posted on 10/20/2015 8:55:46 AM PDT by repentant_pundit (Sammy's your uncle, but he behaves like a spoiled rotten brat.)
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To: SeekAndFind

>>ObamaCare is heading toward a death spiral.

Its not a death spiral. It is the well-engineered transition to the next phase—full socialized medicine.

They’ll say, “We tried the free market. We tried the managed market. The only thing that can work is single payer.”

EVERY person who voted for Obama is an ENEMY of freedom and should be treated as such. If they are friends, get rid of them. If they are family, shun them. If they are employees, fire them.


9 posted on 10/20/2015 8:56:20 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: dsrtsage

Impossible. It is all free

Except the Fines that double every year ,if Obama stays another 4 years he’ll own everyone and everything


10 posted on 10/20/2015 8:57:25 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: SeekAndFind

>>Yep, but for retirees dependent on social security, no cost of living increases because the GOVERNMENT tells us there is NO INFLATION !!

When the gummint is your sugar daddy, it owns you.


11 posted on 10/20/2015 8:57:45 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Last Thursday, the administration predicted enrollment for 2016 will be less than half what the Congressional Budget Office predicted in March.

Set up for, "2016 enrollments exceeded expectations"

12 posted on 10/20/2015 8:58:29 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: SeekAndFind

Death spiral doesn’t apply to government programs.


13 posted on 10/20/2015 8:59:31 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son...)
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To: SeekAndFind
Another problem is that ObamaCare allowed children to age 26 to be their parents plans. This demographic is least likely (except pregnancy) to access health care. But instead of subsidizing sick, freeloaders and the elderly, they remain on their parents affordable plan.
14 posted on 10/20/2015 9:01:03 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: HOYA97

My wife and I are 61 and very healthy. We cancelled health insurance on Jan 1 2014. Civil disobedience. We’ve saved about $22k in premiums on insurance with such high deductibles as to be essentially worthless. And when we DO need treatment (twice), we get massive discounts because we’re not involving insurance red tape. My wife’s eye exam and contacts came to over $400. “Oh, your paying with VISA? How about $106?”

Friends have saved thousands by simply paying out of pocket. The whole health insurance thing is a sham. All of it.


15 posted on 10/20/2015 9:04:04 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: SeekAndFind

However, the various liberal websites are crowing how there are less uninsured people than before the ACAA and that costs aren’t going up as fast as they were.

See, it worked.


16 posted on 10/20/2015 9:04:06 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"the GOVERNMENT tells us there is NO INFLATION !!"

Hello Mr Orwell, you can come out from behind that curtain now. How many Freepers have decided NOT to contact their Rep about this because all Reps are bought and paid for?

17 posted on 10/20/2015 9:05:57 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: SeekAndFind

Meanwhile, on 10/12/2015 the President signed into law HR1624 which was drafted by Democrats, supported by Republicans in the House and Senate, and redefined a small employer as being 1 to 50. This changes ACA and prevents the expansion into the 51-100 sized employers for 1/1/2016.

Hear anything about this in the news anyplace???
See anything in your local paper?
The D’s admitted that ACA places too big of burden to employers.


18 posted on 10/20/2015 9:06:48 AM PDT by speedracerx (The fate of our great nation lies in the hands of conservatives!)
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To: rjsimmon
signing up Dec 30/31 and then cancelling the policy Jan 1/2 in order to avoid IRS penalty?

The IRS form where you calculate the penalty is done on a month-by-month basis.

19 posted on 10/20/2015 9:08:20 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: SeekAndFind

“The president sees the writing on the wall.”
Laughable. He neither sees nor reads.


20 posted on 10/20/2015 9:08:49 AM PDT by ryan71 (Bibles, Beans and Bullets)
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