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The Republicans’ Ugly Revolt (very good article!)
nytimes.com ^ | 10/10/15 | Frank Bruni

Posted on 10/11/2015 6:47:37 AM PDT by cotton1706

OVER the last two decades, through Bob Dole and George W. Bush and John McCain and Mitt Romney, it has become an article of faith that the Republican presidential nominee is a person blessed by, or acceptable to, the party’s establishment, meaning the elders, the bankers, the cool heads, the deep pockets.

There’s mess along the way — brief tantrums by restive voters, fleeting triumphs by renegade candidates — but order and obeisance in the end.

Is this the election cycle when that changes?

The twilight of the Republican elite?

Donald Trump’s stamina and the ascendance of Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina suggest as much. The three of them, who have led national polls since mid-September, aren’t just political outsiders, which is the label hung on them most frequently. They’re instruments of protest by Republican voters unwilling to heed the prompts and protocol that they’re expected to.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatives; elections; gope
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1 posted on 10/11/2015 6:47:37 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

“ugly”-—— Do we always have to include hildebeast? Really?


2 posted on 10/11/2015 6:51:50 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: cotton1706

A lot of what the Republican Party does is ugly. Its an ‘organized mess’.


3 posted on 10/11/2015 6:52:21 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: rktman

Did someone post this yesterday and I missed it or did I read it somewhere else. I kinda agree with the nyt (!!!!) but not in the exact way they’re thinking. People are fed up with the same old promises and PC BS. Are we fed up enough? Guess we’ll see Nov. ‘16. No more pander-bear crap gopE.


4 posted on 10/11/2015 6:54:30 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: cotton1706
The idea that you have to compromise and eventually govern — that there’s a Constitution and we pass laws and sign treaties and have courts that can say no — is thrown out the window.

By Trump??? I would say Obama has pretty much firmly established that precedent - and the DC elites have confirmed that as long as a President backs the continual expansion of the welfare state, the legality of whatever else he does is not important.

5 posted on 10/11/2015 6:57:30 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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To: cotton1706

To the gay New York Times,
supporters of ISIS, al Qaeda and the pRes_ _ent,
conservatives are ... “bomb throwers”.


6 posted on 10/11/2015 6:58:43 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: rktman

Dems like Bruni are loving the Republican crack-up.


7 posted on 10/11/2015 6:59:15 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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To: Lisbon1940
Dems like Bruni are loving the Republican crack-up.

So am I.

8 posted on 10/11/2015 7:13:25 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: cotton1706

They’re instruments of protest by Republican voters unwilling to heed the prompts and protocol that they’re expected to.
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We’re expected to vote for whatever Joyful Tippy-toes Disrupter Tortoise they choose for us.

We The People are sick of the perfidy of our elected representatives doing the bidding of The Cheap Labor Express.
We are sick of them pretending that nothing can be done about the flood of fraudulently documented foreigners.

If we cannot break the stranglehold of The Cheap Labor Express on the GOP/RNC, then the GOP must die.

GOP-RIP


9 posted on 10/11/2015 7:17:55 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: cotton1706

DEATH TO THE LIBERAL GOPe..!!!


10 posted on 10/11/2015 7:17:58 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: cotton1706

I aw very little good about it. It was a GOPe whine.


11 posted on 10/11/2015 7:22:46 AM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: cotton1706
The twilight of the Republican elite?

LOL. They will not fade away. They will simply change parties.

12 posted on 10/11/2015 7:25:12 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: cotton1706

“Those bomb throwers are mirrors of the voters who are saying no to Jeb Bush, no to Chris Christie, no to John Kasich, no to anyone who was once or could soon be the darling of the northeastern Acela corridor.”

If rejecting the liberal republicans who are the darlings of the NE US makes me a bomb thrower, then I’m a very proud bomb thrower!

“Ted Cruz sitting pretty? This could get even uglier than I’d feared.”

Those two sentences tell you all one needs to know about the NE power establishment. In truth, they are 95% HAPPY with Obama. Mitch McConnell would agree with that statement. So would Boner. The leaders of the GOP ARE the enemy, no matter how much they pretend otherwise. And the proof is our republican-controlled Congress.


13 posted on 10/11/2015 7:25:36 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: cotton1706

The problem with the Republican party is it’s becoming a clone of the Democratic party and Republican voters are sick of it. When the news media starts offering advice on what the Republicans need to do listen then go in the opposite direction and you will be successful!


14 posted on 10/11/2015 7:29:16 AM PDT by bonehead4freedom
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To: cotton1706

.......well Frank, if it were possible to pull out the several snarky high school type comments you could not help yourself from making, this article would actually have come within a degree or two of professional journalism.

I suggest to you that Trump, a MULTI BILLIONAIRE, is far less “delusional” than you and your lefty buddies over at the “involuntary” non profit New York Times are.


15 posted on 10/11/2015 7:37:56 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: cotton1706
They’re instruments of protest by Republican voters unwilling to heed the prompts and protocol that they’re expected to.

Damn straight. It's about time they learned that WE are THEIR bosses. Not the other way around.

We delegate power to them. They govern at our consent. We elect them to represent US, not the INSTITUTION.

Learn it, live it, love it.

16 posted on 10/11/2015 7:40:42 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
...the DC elites have confirmed that as long as a President backs the continual expansion of the welfare state, the legality of whatever else he does is not important.

Bingo! And I think this pisses off more people than just me. I am so tired of the "leaning across the isle" and compromising what I think used to be the principles of the Republican party. Look at how long Boehner and McConnell have had power and what have they done with it? Absolutely NOTHING! The spineless GOP needs to grow a pair and realize they are out unless we see real reform on immigration, taxes and spending, and regulation...and they damn-well better do it quickly.

17 posted on 10/11/2015 7:51:55 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: cotton1706

One of my best friends on this planet is a lib, a bit more centrist on national sec/military things. He is like a typical little brother type. I think he needs guidance. lol

In the last 45 days, he has confessed the following: Obama is truly a Marxist. He has also confessed that Obamacare (his via the Medicaid expansion) is a disaster. The Medicaid doctor provided to him in CA was valueless, and he is no happy camper at all.

I told him a few years ago, that there were things the left and right would be able to unite on. He did not believe me. However, it is starting to dawn on him, that the “establishment” of both parties are in cahoots with one another, plucking us...to feather their own nests. I saw a sentence in the Trump thing yesterday, when asked about the Ex-Im bank. He simply said “Boeing doesn’t need it.” I must be the only person who remembers when Dems were against corporate welfare! I am amazed how many Dems are going along with this, especially in the Senate. Both parties are ALL IN on all sorts of corporate welfare. We voters are now officially an afterthought. This is why no matter how we vote, nothing ever changes. And unless we revolt, nothing ever will.

I do not agree with Trump on everything. But for now, I agree with him on those things that truly matter to me:

TPP (crony capitalism)
Immigration (crony capitalism & loss of sovereignty)
Iran deal (crony capitalism & nat. security problem)
Common Core (crony capitalism & loss of local control)

And suddenly, my lib friend in CA is sounding a lot more sympathetic.


18 posted on 10/11/2015 8:04:51 AM PDT by Dana1960
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To: econjack
I am so tired of the "leaning across the isle" and compromising what I think used to be the principles of the Republican party.

They need to be reminded that compromising with bad policy is like adding a little sewage to your drinking water.

19 posted on 10/11/2015 8:17:47 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: cotton1706
Someone like Ted Cruz.

“He’s perfectly positioned himself to own that space when Trump and Carson disappear,” said a Republican operative who is among the smartest analysts I know. “He’ll be a force to be reckoned with. I think that he has a very clear path to the nomination, as much as that horrifies me.”

This is a strange season, in which old rules and truths seem to be going up in flames. It’s a bonfire of the verities.

It's more a bonfire of the hauteurs.

More and more people that I encounter - left and right (but mostly right) are increasingly fed up with the uniparty and its elites who deign to tell us what we should think. It's time to tell them what to think or unceremoniously toss them from the rooftops.

If we can't truly fix it then let it burn.

20 posted on 10/11/2015 8:22:46 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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