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Israel's Hushed Military Ties With Russia Now Paying Off
haaretz.com ^ | Oct 09, 2015 1:43 AM | Anshel Pfeffer

Posted on 10/09/2015 12:34:13 PM PDT by Trumpinator

Israel's Hushed Military Ties With Russia Now Paying Off

While U.S. gives Russia the cold shoulder in Syria, Kremlin's ties with Israel grow warm.

Anshel Pfeffer Oct 09, 2015 1:43 AM

The Pentagon announced on Wednesday that it was refusing to hold “de-confliction” talks with the Russian Defense Ministry to coordinate the two nations’ air-operations over Syria and would make do with just “technical details.” At the same time, de-confliction talks, of the kind the Americans rejected, between the Israel Defense Forces and their Russian counterparts, led by the deputy chiefs of staff of both militaries, were already wrapping up in Tel Aviv’s HaKirya headquarters.

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Netanyahu knew what Putin needed to hear from him in their meeting last month – a promise that Israel isn’t seeking to actively topple Syrian president Bashar al-Assad. While the Obama administration and its NATO allies are still struggling to grasp what Putin is trying to achieve in Syria, it seems that the Israeli and Russian leaders understand each other’s interests pretty well. It may not be a formal military alliance but in the current situation in the Middle East, it’s quite a lot.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: astroturf; iran; israel; jihad; kgb; lebanon; patricelumumbaschool; putin; putinsbuttboys; putinstrolls; russia; russianstooges; syria; vladtheimploder; waronterror
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1 posted on 10/09/2015 12:34:13 PM PDT by Trumpinator
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To: Trumpinator

Coming soon: Who Lost Israel?


2 posted on 10/09/2015 12:36:14 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Eagles fan after loss to Dallas -- This is the first time I ever saw the "prevent offense".)
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To: sparklite2

Russia is the keymaster to Iran. When Iran was empowered by the overthrow of Saddam’s regime this was inevitable.


3 posted on 10/09/2015 12:38:09 PM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Trumpinator

Trump: Iran Deal Requires U.S. Protecting Iran in Event of Israeli Strike

by Jacob Kornbluh
Sept 2, 2015

In a phone interview with CNN Tuesday evening, Trump claimed that there’s “something in the Iran deal” that “people don’t understand” saying if someone attacks Iran, “we have to come to their defense.”

“Does that include Israel?” Trump asked. “And most people say yes, they don’t have an exclusion for Israel. So if Israel attacks Iran, according to that deal, I believe, the way it reads, unless they have a codicil or they have something to it, that we have to fight with Iran against Israel.” ..."

Trump was most probably referring to language highlighted by the opponents of the deal. On page 142, the deal includes a clause that states, “Co-operation through training and workshops to strengthen Iran’s ability to protect against, and respond to nuclear security threats, including sabotage, as well as to enable effective and sustainable nuclear security and physical protection systems.”

Washington-based Center for Security Policy asserted that Annex III appears “to commit the United States and other world powers to the defense of Iran’s nuclear program.”

http://jpupdates.com/2015/09/02/trump-iran-deal-requires-u-s-protecting-iran-in-event-of-israeli-strike/
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Russian build-up in Syria part of secret deal with Iran’s Quds Force leader

September 11, 2015
Jennifer Griffin, Lucas Tomlinson
FoxNews.com

As the Pentagon warily eyes a Russian military build-up in Syria, Western intelligence sources tell Fox News that the escalated Russian presence began just days after a secret Moscow meeting in late July between Iran’s Quds Force commander — their chief exporter of terror — and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Fox News has learned Quds head Qassem Soleimani and Putin discussed such a joint military plan for Syria at that meeting, an encounter first reported by Fox News in early August. ...”

The Quds Force is the international arm of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, involved in exporting terrorism to Iran’s proxies throughout the Middle East including Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Yemen. ...”

Officials who have monitored the build-up say they’ve seen more than 1,000 Russian combatants — some of them from the same plainclothes Special Forces units who were sent to Crimea and Ukraine. Some of these Russian troops are logistical specialists and needed for security at the expanding Russian bases.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/09/11/russian-build-up-in-syria-part-secret-deal-with-irans-quds-force-leader/

4 posted on 10/09/2015 12:45:22 PM PDT by ETL (So many idiots, not enough time)
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To: Trumpinator

Wonder how this will turn out when Israel bombs out those Iranian reactors? Or maybe the Ruskies will save them the trouble by including another stuxnet worm in their next parts shipment.


5 posted on 10/09/2015 12:46:45 PM PDT by KingofZion
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To: Trumpinator
From The Jerusalem Post:

Iranian military chief threatens to 'wipe Tel Aviv off the map'


6 posted on 10/09/2015 12:52:25 PM PDT by ETL (So many idiots, not enough time)
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To: KingofZion

That won’t ever have happened - people have a highly exaggerated view of Israel’s military capabilities. Israel was never going to bomb Iran and even if they did - they would have done little damage based on how the Iranians spread out the production. Basically, the Iranians bought the Pakistan “Khan” network’s process which is to use thousands of small centrifuges to make weapon’s grade fuel.


7 posted on 10/09/2015 12:52:39 PM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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Pro-Hezbollah Paper: Russia, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah Form Alliance

Sept 23, 2015

A prominent pro-Hezbollah newspaper in Lebanon reported Tuesday that Russia and the terrorist organization have formed an alliance and will fight together in Syria. “The parties to the alliance are the states of Russia, Iran, Syria, and Iraq, with Lebanon’s Hezbollah as the fifth party,”

Al-Akhbar Editor in Chief Ibrahim al-Amin wrote. The pact would be called the “4+1 alliance”—a pun based on the P5+1 that negotiated the nuclear deal with Iran. Hezbollah is a proxy of Iran based in Lebanon and Moscow has been working with Tehran to save Bashar al-Assad’s regime, even sending men and weapons to Syria.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/09/22/report-russia-partners-with-hezbollah.html

8 posted on 10/09/2015 12:53:35 PM PDT by ETL (So many idiots, not enough time)
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To: KingofZion

I also doubt that Putin and friends do not have a liking for the sound of the call to prayer across the land.


9 posted on 10/09/2015 12:53:39 PM PDT by UncleSam (Why must someone else always make the final decisions?)
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To: ETL

Quick - tell Bibi!!!!!!


10 posted on 10/09/2015 12:54:19 PM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Trumpinator

Haaretz is the leftwing Israeli rag that wants Israel wiped out more than the muslims do.


11 posted on 10/09/2015 12:54:34 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: UncleSam
I also doubt that Putin and friends do not have a liking for the sound of the call to prayer across the land.

Nor the Star Spangled Banner, as he sees the US and NATO as the only true threat to his expansionist aims.

12 posted on 10/09/2015 12:57:54 PM PDT by ETL (So many idiots, not enough time)
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To: ETL

You know Israel has an gas field off the shores of Haifa, another oil find in the Mediterranean.

Yesterday I learned they found what might be a real large oil find in the northern Israel southern Golan area.

If so Israel won’t need to take out loans from the USA and buy our lemon the J35 fighter. Israel can develop her own jets or buy them from anyone.

This could be a game changer for Israel to be completely independent.

Muzzie in Chief Obama losing Israel is big. And Jewish Dems
are to blame for supporting the Iran deal.


13 posted on 10/09/2015 1:00:45 PM PDT by Zenjitsuman (A)
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To: Trumpinator
Quick - tell Bibi!!!!!!

Just pointing out that he couldn't possibly be comfortable with your boy KGB/FSB Putin's joining forces with all of these Israel hating islamo-nazi regimes and terror groups. This despite what he thinks he must do or say at this very difficult and complex time.

Meanwhile, Putinista, I'd bet you can't wait for Putin to restore the old Soviet Union, or something not too much different from it.

Again, your Russian butt boys have armed and supported the following: Saddam Hussein/Iraq, Iran, Syria, the ChiComs, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, Boliva... get the idea? They seek to not only retake Eastern Europe, but now, with ChiCom help, the Middle East. Yet this is all great news to you.

14 posted on 10/09/2015 1:05:22 PM PDT by ETL (So many idiots, not enough time)
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To: ETL

How do you know what Bibi is comfortable with?


15 posted on 10/09/2015 1:09:29 PM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Trumpinator

Are you suggesting he doesn’t really like Israel and want it to survive?


16 posted on 10/09/2015 1:10:45 PM PDT by ETL (So many idiots, not enough time)
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To: Trumpinator

...that he is in cahoots with you pal KGB/FSB Putin, like Obama is.


17 posted on 10/09/2015 1:11:46 PM PDT by ETL (So many idiots, not enough time)
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To: ETL

Are you saying Putin is vital to Israel’s survival? Interesting.


18 posted on 10/09/2015 1:12:43 PM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Zenjitsuman
"If so Israel won’t need to take out loans from the USA and buy our lemon the J35 fighter. Israel can develop her own jets or buy them from anyone."

Israel could be buying from Russia or Germany or (insert country) right now, but they don't because what they get from us outclasses anything else they could get...Likewise, they can't develop anything that would be better than what we let them buy from us.

19 posted on 10/09/2015 1:26:11 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Exsurge, Domine, et judica causam tuam)
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To: Trumpinator
Russia now has Iran and Syria on a leash.

This is good for Israel.

20 posted on 10/09/2015 1:35:07 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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