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Josh Earnest: Obama may do executive action (again) on guns
Hot Air ^ | October 6, 2015 | Taylor Millard

Posted on 10/06/2015 5:34:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Fresh off Hillary Clinton announcing she was going to do gun control without Congressional authority, President Barack Obama appears to be leaning the same way again. White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest told reporters Monday it was time to get serious about keeping guns from certain people.

“The president has frequently pushed his team to consider a range of executive actions that could more effectively keep guns out of the hands of criminals and others who shouldn’t have access to them. That’s something that is ongoing here.”

How this is different from the 2013 executive orders, no one is saying. Earnest promises there are things which can be done that won’t affect “the constitutional rights of law-abiding Americans,” but that’s obviously not true. Jazz wrote in 2013 how almost 35K people lost their right to own a gun because of the New York SAFE Act. The New York Times also pointed out another problem with trying to do the “others who shouldn’t have access to them” game when it comes to guns. There are plenty of people out there who might fit the profile of “mass shooters,” who don’t go out and kill people (emphasis mine).

Dr. [ Jeffrey ] Swanson of Duke said studies indicated that only 7 percent of people with a diagnosed mental illnesses might do anything violent in a year, “and that is something as minor as pushing or shoving somebody.” With many of the killers, the signs are of anger and disappointment and solitude.

“Sure, you’ve got these risk factors, but they also describe thousands of people who are never going to commit a mass shooting,” Dr. Swanson said. “You can’t go out and round up all the alienated angry young men.”

Therein lies the problem with wanting to increase mental health standards on who can own guns. Just because someone feels depressed, angry, lonely, etc. doesn’t mean they’re going to go out and start shooting people. There are other outlets which can help people whether it’s going to church, counseling, medication, video games, writing, working out, or just talking to someone. Trying to predict how people will act is just one closer step to Minority Report and precrime. There may be people who are in favor of trying to predict the future, but as Yoda proclaimed, “Difficult to see. Always in motion is future.” There’s no way to get around this, despite how many psychoanalysis and studies are done.

Here’s another problem with Earnest’s comments: if someone thinks they need protection, they’ll do whatever it takes to get it. There was a Chicago grandfather who was arrested and charged with owning an “illegal gun” in 2012 after he used it to fight off a 19-year-old who broke into his home. Thankfully reason prevailed, in one of the few times in Chicago, and charges were dropped against the 80-year-old. But it shows the man got a gun because he believed he needed one to protect his home. Swords and warhammers aren’t always effective against a gun at less than five feet and not everyone is Green Arrow or Hawkeye. Sheldon Richman is right when he reminds everyone at Reason the only “defender guaranteed to be present at any attack against you is: you.” Unless the government is going to start assigning personal police officers for every person on the planet (and they shouldn’t even try that) the individual is best way to stop another individual from committing a crime. Donald Trump made a great point when he mentioned Death Wish over the weekend. That was a guy going out and stopping crime because the police couldn’t. It’s why characters like Batman, the Punisher, Huntress, Spider-Man, Wonder Woman (even if she was affiliated with the government at times), and the Flash are so popular. They go out and protect people who can’t protect themselves and the cops are available. Because these fictional characters are, well, fictional the only way people can be secure in their homes, apartments, cars, etc. is if they have protection against those who want to hurt them.

This is why it’s important for people to get past the emotion of “do something!” and stop and think before reacting. When people don’t try to rationally think things out it turns into reactionary, unconstitutional laws like the Patriot Act or the Alien and Sedition Acts. There’s common sense which can be used to point out why not having restrictions on guns won’t bring about the Wild West, but will bring about more safety. If a killer thinks they have free reign to attack a place because of “no guns” it’s going to keep going on, regardless of how many unconstitutional executive orders the White House passes. The responsibility shouldn’t fall on the government to “do something!” it should fall on individuals to protect themselves. That means letting guns be available, whether the government likes it or not.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; hillary; joshearnest; obama; secondamendment
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1 posted on 10/06/2015 5:34:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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“You can’t go out and round up all the alienated angry young men.”

No, just the white Christians. They need to be in camps. They crazy!

2 posted on 10/06/2015 5:36:32 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I've switched. Trump is my #1. He understands how to get things done. Cruz can be VP.)
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keep guns out of the hands of ... others who shouldn’t have access to them.

If you translate that into English, he's saying 'conservatives'. Obama must have bought some stock in firearms makers, as this is going to boost sales.

3 posted on 10/06/2015 5:37:46 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess it really is becoming time for revolt.


4 posted on 10/06/2015 5:38:58 PM PDT by Bullish (Face it, insanity is just not presidential.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

O’Doobie has jumped the shark. He’s higher than a kite.


5 posted on 10/06/2015 5:39:13 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

still waiting for Obama first executive actions on guns from ago or did Obama forget already


6 posted on 10/06/2015 5:39:52 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More from the Dictator, ignoring Congress, making up his own laws etc.

Really if he does this on the guns, a violation of your Second Amendment, if the Republicans don’t shut the Government down, they might as well just all cross the aisle and join the Democrats, then you’ll have a One Party State with the already Obama Dictatorship running the whole show.


7 posted on 10/06/2015 5:40:27 PM PDT by Lucy Hamilton (Lucy from Occupied Europa)
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To: PAR35

Absolutely right..when Obama says that “Others who shouldn’t have access to them” he means Conservatives..in his mind, only criminals who vote Democrat and illegal alien scum can have guns, this is the same man who allowed his DOJ to give guns to criminals in Mexico who went on to murder hundreds of people, yet he has the nerve to call for gun control..he should start with himself


8 posted on 10/06/2015 5:42:06 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Warm up the tar and go to the coop, ethan


9 posted on 10/06/2015 5:43:19 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What’s the point of linking to the article if you are going to go ahead and post the entire text of the article anyway, as you have, and waste expensive bandwidth in the process, instead of just posting a few lines as an excerpt, as is required by FR guidelines?


10 posted on 10/06/2015 5:44:25 PM PDT by 4Runner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gay Obo does execution action. We the People ignore it. Fin.


11 posted on 10/06/2015 5:44:34 PM PDT by inkfarmer
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A Canadian judge has ruled that Prozac caused a teenage boy to murder his friend, as the drug caused him to overreact “in an impulsive, explosive and violent way”
Many drugs, particularly antidepressants, are associated with violence, including suicidal and homicidal tendencies. Of the top 10 drugs linked to violence, half are antidepressants

Recent research has discovered that certain genetic variations may predispose you to homicidal behavior following exposure to antidepressants, due to an inability to properly metabolize the drugs.

Studies have found that up to 75 percent of the benefits of antidepressants can be duplicated by a placebo. So not only are these drugs ineffective, but the evidence is clear that most of these drugs in fact increase your risk of suicide and violence, including homicide


12 posted on 10/06/2015 5:44:58 PM PDT by Captain7seas
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Since when does Hot Air have to be excerpted and linked or are you pointing to my threads in general? And when did you take over ownership of Free Republic? I’m here quite a bit, I don’t know how I missed that.


13 posted on 10/06/2015 5:47:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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By all means. No guns for atheists, militant Blacks, and young males with no fathers in the home. Let’s see that executive order, Barack Hussein Obama.


14 posted on 10/06/2015 5:47:24 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Captain7seas

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15 posted on 10/06/2015 5:48:15 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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16 posted on 10/06/2015 5:49:59 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: PAR35

Too late, S & W is up 80% and Ruger is up 70% in 2015.


17 posted on 10/06/2015 5:50:14 PM PDT by CMailBag
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No he won’t.If he did a shitstorm will follow.


18 posted on 10/06/2015 5:50:25 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The 2nd amendment protects citizens against tyranny, so I guess what happens next will be Constitutional.


19 posted on 10/06/2015 5:50:51 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Captain7seas

I tend to disagree....A anti-depressant helped me out some 25 years ago when due to situations out of my control, I got into a funk and could not get out..

I used the med for about 18 months and gradually took myself off of it..It’s interesting that I lost that 18 months. I can barely recall anything during that time.


20 posted on 10/06/2015 5:51:15 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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