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1 posted on 10/06/2015 2:09:30 PM PDT by Abakumov
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Dr. Ben Carson said that and the left jumped him for being “insensitive”. I hate liberals.


2 posted on 10/06/2015 2:11:21 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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This is FINALLY what the AF is teaching as well. They even say, “If armed, resist”. I’m retiring in <90 days and they FINALLY give us useful advice on active shooter training.


3 posted on 10/06/2015 2:11:36 PM PDT by jagusafr
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Practice your headshots and unload some 9mm goodness on them.


4 posted on 10/06/2015 2:13:16 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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The marine has it wrong. It’s much more preferable when shots are heard for the teacher to cower in the corner with the kids.


5 posted on 10/06/2015 2:16:10 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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All very well saying this, but when fight or flight kicks in, the choice is usually taken away from you as your lizard brain takes over from your conscious human one. If you don’t have it naturally you need to have it trained into you, either through military training or martial arts/self defence training.


6 posted on 10/06/2015 2:17:25 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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It may be a matter of personality. I told Mr. Mercat that I want to be trained and armed because I know myself and I will attack. That’s just who I am. I’m not bragging but it is a guttural reflex.


7 posted on 10/06/2015 2:19:55 PM PDT by Mercat (You don't recommend better diet and exercise for a shark bite.)
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Flee a knife; charge a gun.


9 posted on 10/06/2015 2:26:53 PM PDT by Goldsborough
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Like Chris Norman, the Brit who helped take down the Moroccan terrorist on the French train.

“My thought was, ‘OK, I’m probably going to die anyway, so let’s go.’ I’d rather die being active, trying to get him down, than simply sit in the corner and be shot. Either you sit down and you die or you get up and you die. It was really nothing more than that.”


11 posted on 10/06/2015 2:35:37 PM PDT by omega4412
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Like Chris Norman, the Brit who helped take down the Moroccan terrorist on the French train.

“My thought was, ‘OK, I’m probably going to die anyway, so let’s go.’ I’d rather die being active, trying to get him down, than simply sit in the corner and be shot. Either you sit down and you die or you get up and you die. It was really nothing more than that.”


12 posted on 10/06/2015 2:35:38 PM PDT by omega4412
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I always hope I’d go down swinging anyway. I’m small but I’m still quick and my plan is to go for the knees.


13 posted on 10/06/2015 2:42:45 PM PDT by tiki ( r)
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It’s pure common sense. At point blank range a gunman ain’t gonna miss unless you make him miss.


14 posted on 10/06/2015 2:44:12 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job...)
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Be prepared. SITREP. Who’s in your zone? Avoid UNPROTECTED, feel good, “gun free” slaughter zones. Depending on proximity to the perp, flight may be the smartest course of action. Being closest in proximity, you’ll have to take the shot at the perp. Having access and time to your weapon is the ultimate. Be prepared.


15 posted on 10/06/2015 2:46:01 PM PDT by PGalt
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Yes sir. I’ll do that.


16 posted on 10/06/2015 2:46:43 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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Very good post.. thank you.


19 posted on 10/06/2015 2:50:03 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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Shopkeeper beats would-be robber with folding chair - original video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvvU72KfruU

Moral of the story: Get crazy - throw - hit - club - anything - EVERYTHING!!!


20 posted on 10/06/2015 2:50:46 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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You mean like this?

It can and does work!

Train shooting heroes: The [American] men who helped avert a massacre in Europe
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/22/europe/france-train-shooting-heroes/


22 posted on 10/06/2015 3:01:52 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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When my son had become a Marine (reservist) but before he was fully trained and deployed, there was an incident near his apartment in downtown Richmond at Virginia Commonwealth U. Gunfire in the wee hours of the morning.

He and his roommate ((Army reservist, later at Mosul, Iraq during the tent bombing) jumped up and went outside and ran in the direction of the gunfire. Turned out to be a couple local scum shooting their 9mm’s at each other.

Though ill-advised, they did not fear for themselves. Both those boys fought well in Iraq, though my son didn’t make it back alive.


24 posted on 10/06/2015 3:16:13 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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It would seem that anyone would know this, but Common Sense has become a superpower in the last 5 or 10 years since so few seem to possess it anymore.

Don't just fight back, Shoot back!

No more GUN FREE ZONES!

The blood of everyone who has been shot in Gun Free Zones is on the hands of the anti-gun nuts that want people unable to defend themselves.

If only, the gun control pushers would all find themselves in situations where someone was shooting at them and they had to wait 20 minutes for the police to show up.

I wonder how many of them possess the imagination to wish that they had a gun to shoot back with.

...or would they just wet their pants thinking “Guns are scary!”

25 posted on 10/06/2015 3:24:16 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are those committed by illegal aliens)
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Always remember the 21 foot rule.

I think cops are taught this in their training, not sure, not a cop.

Anyway, inside of 21 feet, an attacker can charge and make contact before the attackee has time to react. If he is already aiming and fixing to fire, it may be too late, but what do you have to lose?

Military training, contact sports, martial arts, etc all help. Any plan of action is better than no plan.

For me, some military training combined with 9 years of intense contact sports helped in my reaction/inaction instincts, but working livestock for 15 years , often alone. is what taught me how to confront a dangerous situation with little hesitation.

My understanding is the “momma bear” instinct some mothers have allow them to punch way above their weight class, and overcome situations where they are heavily outmatched.

Having taken hits and been knocked unconscious in the past he[p to show you that it isn’t that bad, often not even felt in the heat of it.

Don’t run up to the threat, run through and over it. This mindset helps as well, but takes some learning/conditioning.

That said, what would I do if trapped by a shooter? I do not know. I have only been shot at once and it made me mad, not scared.


27 posted on 10/06/2015 3:26:49 PM PDT by wrench
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That’s what I didn’t understand in Oregon. They stood there as he shot them one at a time. Whatever happened to “Let’s roll”? Do you not want to go down fighting? Do something. Anything. But don’t just stand there and take it.


29 posted on 10/06/2015 3:47:22 PM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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