Posted on 10/01/2015 5:19:31 AM PDT by Kaslin
My wife is Catholic and I am not. She would call me at work several times a day to give me updates on the Pope’s visit. I finally quit answering the phone and told her I was in meetings.
Your frothing put-downs are so tiresome.
“Yet Francis reserves most of his advice for host countries to ensure that they treat the often-impoverished and mostly young male newcomers with Christian humanity.
That advice is admirable. But the pope might have likewise lectured the leaders of countries such as Syria and Mexico to stop whatever they are doing to heartlessly drive out millions of their own citizens from their homes. “
For those who think Francis should stick to church teaching and the spirituality of his flock will inevitably be disappointed.
The first ever Jesuit priest elected pope can’t change his nature, not at his advanced age.
I think you missed the point, which I took to mean that religious priests should not be using their religious standing to pontificate on hot-button political issues, whether from the right or the left.
I think VDH simply used Sanders and Cruz (fairly, in my opinion) to define the two opposite poles of the political spectrum, which they do represent.
Why don't you grow up and see who started it. You're the second dweeb to attack me out of nowhere this morning. You're frothy. I'm just doing what Trump does, attack those who attack me.
Many, if not most of those dissidents are Catholic. Since Obama sucked up to Castro, the crackdowns have been even harsher. I was shocked and dismayed that Francis didn’t champion the cause of Castro’s most vulnerable and abused victims. I felt ill just thinking about it.
To be fair, my liberal non-Catholic Christian friends and acquaintances are the exact same way. They have a warped, twisted view of Cuba that is very positive and uncritical. They thought it was great that Elian was sent back at gun point. For them, Cuba is better than the US. Francis shares this view; he was far more critical of us than of them/the Castros.
I agree with you on VDH/Cruz, who lobs a throwaway line bomb at Ted Cruz (and Bernie Sanders?!) at the end. Totally forced, gratuitous and inappropriate. And the analogy to a priest (SRSLY?!) makes no sense whatsoever. I think VDH has a Trump thorn in his gOpE side and this causes him to lash out at Ted Cruz?!
I didn't take it that way, not sure how that would work, but I'll take your word for it now.
Thin skin much?
I am just sick to death of constantly encountering your ‘colorfully’ worded insults. They degrade the site.
The only reason he got such wall to wall coverage was because he said and did the things that the left and the press wanted. The two times he did something decent - when he met with Kim and when he visited the Little Sisters of the Poor - he did them secretly because he didn’t want to be seen doing something the left might not like. Popularity with the powers that be is everything to this guy.
As am I. Couldn't agree with you more!
you cannot possibly underestimate my indifference to what you are sick to death of. And ironically, you invite that which you claim to be sick of. How smart of you is that? I’d say not very.
Let the record show again, YOU started this. YOU. Period.
Haha. Yet not sufficiently indifferent to simply ignore it. This word, ‘indifferent,’ it doesn’t mean what you think it means.
Since I was asked upthread about this, and I respect your thoughts and opinion, I'll add to my earlier reply. I agree that VDH's primary point is that a religious leader should refrain from speaking out about hot-button political issues, and particularly when using language associated with the FAR LEFT of the host country, during such a "religious" visit.
IMHO, then using political figures as an analogy and Ted Cruz as the example of the opposite pole of this fabricated spectrum, with this higly "religious" undertone to it, from a blatant Communist (Sanders), is extreme, forced and stupid. First, neither Cruz nor Sanders are religious figures, so the analogy (religious leaders shouldn't weigh in on hot-button political issues) is completely screwed up from the very beginning.
When conservatives on FR allow the media's "Palinization" of Ted Cruz into some extreme, right-wing, wacko bird, crazy, we're all screwed.
+1
The only thing missing from that post is Q.E.D.
I am glad to have improved upon weird and creepy.
oh i know what indifferent means, perhaps you don’t. I am not indifferent to your misplaced unprovoked attack - but I am indeed indifferent to the little internal psychoses you suffer with that precipitated it.
Two different things. Sorry to over estimate you.
If it’s weird and creepy, I’ll call it that way. If it’s a tight, flowing, flawless argument that eloquently and definitively proves its point, I’ll call that too.
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