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To: Old Teufel Hunden

We have no strategy in the Middle East. Obama is a coward and a fool, or he is a traitor. There is no military solution to the Middle East—at least not anything palatable to America. Potential is only realized through exercising will. At this point, America has no will and has made herself a complete laughingstock. And now what?

Who will stand up and say that we should initiate WWIII because of Syria or Afghanistan? Damn you neocons and Democrats both! You want to get in bed with these savages? Have at it and bring your children! There are no honest players in this entire charade, and more have died from misguided intervention than the original despotism.

We have no strategic interest in Syria. The entire escapade has been a flustercluck of unimaginable incompetence or outright malfeasance on the part of the administration. Afghanistan is the same. We have no business there, and we have no business allying ourselves to any of these Muslim devils.


10 posted on 09/30/2015 1:56:08 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (If Washington was judged with the same standard as Sodom, it would not exist.)
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To: antidisestablishment

Was it being a neocon back in 2011 to say we should leave a residual force of 10,000 in Iraq? If so, lets pull out the 26,000 from South Korea, let’s pull the 20,000 from Okinawa, let’s pull the who knows how many thousands out of Europe.

If we had left a residual force of 10,000 in Iraq, there would be no rise in ISIS invading Iraq. Perhaps they rise, but they would stay in Syria. I agree that we didn’t have an interest in the Syrian civil war, but now that ISIS has been created and spilled over into Iraq, threatening our allies in Jordan, Egypt, etc.. we have an interest. Because of American ineptitude we now have interests in Syria because it is threatening to boil over and consume the whole peninsula and Northern Africa in flames.

A coherent foreign policy does not mean war. Unfortunately, this has gone so far out of control that the military option is increasingly becoming the only one. If we lead in this fight, we could have many coalition forces such as Egypt, Jordan, Turkey etc.. doing a lot of the heavy lifting but we must lead, period....


13 posted on 09/30/2015 10:48:45 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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