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To: SeekAndFind

The USA armed the forerunners of ISIS.

Ask this question:

Would the mid-east be such a basket case if Iraq had not been invaded and Saddam Hussein had not been removed from power?

That was supposedly done in response to the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the US.

Don’t forget that 15 of the 19 terrorists on 9/11 were Saudi Arabian, one was Egyptian, one was Lebanese and two were from the UAE.

None were Iraqi.


5 posted on 09/28/2015 9:34:21 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Proverbs 21:20 - The wise have stores of food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has))
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To: Iron Munro
It might be in worse shape. As the article shows, Saddam had already begun Islamisizing his regime. The “Caliph” of ISIS attended a Saddam run Islamic center. The Iraqi leadership supported a pan-Arab Caliphate. The problems we see in the Middle East may have been worse, with an intact Iraqi army leading the charge in a theater-wide general war.
6 posted on 09/28/2015 9:49:14 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Iron Munro

“The USA armed the forerunners of ISIS.”

Cite Source

“Ask this question:

Would the mid-east be such a basket case if Iraq had not been invaded and Saddam Hussein had not been removed from power?”

Saddam’s chambers of horrors
Margaret Wente
Saturday, Nov. 23, 2002
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/saddams-chambers-of-horrors/article758101/?page=all

Inside Saddam’s Reign Of Terror
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubLJSc6iIx4

You are of course aware of what Iraq was like when we pulled out right?


10 posted on 09/28/2015 11:13:27 AM PDT by Valin (I'm not completely worthless. I can be used as a bad example.)
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To: Iron Munro
The USA armed the forerunners of ISIS

Not the forerunners. The "forerunners" of ISIS were the folks we were fighting before and during the surge - Zarqawi's palestinian group in Jordan, his three cells in Iraq [including 1 in Baghdad which was largely Egyptian] [Zarqawi, the first formal leader of ISIS, also had operatives on the Iran-Afghan border who controlled the smuggling routes there], and Mullah Krekar's group of Kurds and Iraq intel which operated in Europe, Syria and Iraq prior to and during the US invasion... and Iraqi Gen. al Dhouri's Nashqbani Baath followers and former Iraqi intel personnel [JRTN]. You'd be hard pressed to find the US arming any of them- in those days their weapons of choice were Russian or Russian knockoffs, most likely. Years AFTER the forerunners merged into AQinIraq and later renamed themselves ISIS and after the Obama drawdown they were able to capture US arms when they reinvaded from the North and overran Iraqi troops and police. And more recently in Syria there's no telling what was given vs what was taken because I'm pretty sure Obama's not on our side.

15 posted on 10/06/2015 9:44:33 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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