Posted on 09/27/2015 8:42:57 PM PDT by Red Steel
There is a distinction and it is important.
Ronald Reagan always came back to his key point. He said government must turn its power over to the PEOPLE as the only solution to our pressing problems.
Donald Trump always comes back to his key point. HE is going to fix things. HE is going to turn things around so quickly it will make your head spin. (True, with occasional lip service about how 'great' the American People are, but it's theatrics.) Ronald Reagan was American People-centric. Just listen to his words.
Donald Trump is Donald Trump-centric. HUGE difference. And the later can pose real problems for society. It's highly problematic.
It’s called HISTORY, you fool. Look it up.
Carter called it the “Canada-Mexico-US Free Trade Act”, and first proposed it in 1977. He pushed through the Trade Agreements Act of 1979 to lay the ground for it.
Don’t see where it deals with Canada and Mexico. Care to clarify?
Don’t be an Idiot...
As usual, you seem to “know” a whole lot that just isn’t true, like most liberals.
Google was created to educate people like yourself. I suggest you try it. Or open an ancient device known as a “History Book”.
The US runs trade deficits with every major country. It’s a totally unsustainable situation, it’s money pouring out of the country and the chief root of our deficits via lost tax revenues + increased government handouts. The middle class will be gone along with social security and everything else if it continues for another generation.
Obama must have read “fairy trade”.
Jim, I think you may have had a good point, years ago. I would have agreed with it then. I’m not convinced you’re anywhere near a good point now with those comments today.
What’s going on here is not working. We all know it.
In a closed capitalist system, things level out, there’s sound competition.
How can our businesses be expect to pay a decent wage here and compete with $0.30 cents an hour employees off-shore.
And to compete with that labor, we have to sacrifice our jobs, our economy, and our nation.
At what point will this finally dawn on you? We simply cannot go on like this. We have well in excess of 40 million people out of work, and nobody has a handle on how to get them back to work, except Trump.
Capitalism works like clockwork in equal societies, Canada, the United States, upscale Europe. You start competing at $20 and hour to make a living, with $0.20 cents an hour to make a living, it’s very very destructive.
We have tens of millions out of work. Our city, state, and federal tax receipts are severely negatively impacted. Our schools, libraries, police, fire, infrastructure, national debt, city decay, it’s all related. Social Security, Medicare, it’s all being negatively impacted by tens of millions of people sitting idle.
I know there are a lot of people who really belch about those of us who recognize the internationalist trade is very destructive, but it is. It’s simply undeniable the impact it has had on our nation.
I T - H A S - T O - S T O P !
What is one of the only things our federal government actually has the authority to manage?
Trade. Let it. It can do far better than what has been allowed to happen. Granted it set this all up, but we’ve trade it and it utterly failed. MISERABLY!
Just like we said it would.
I see. Trump is against free markets.
NAFTA is garbage
China is a master at dumping. No one really cares about phone cases, t shirts, plastic plates, etc. when it’s a US brand manufactured in China. These are low cost goods. No biggie buying these goods online and I don’t have emotional attachments to these brands.
What people do care about is when China dumps the lumber market with inferior product when we can readily meet US demands (and manage our forests better without growing government).
A personal weakness of mine is red licorice. All the novelty non-chocolate candy I like is now made in China. I refuse to buy it.
Another thing I can’t stand is when I buy bottled apple juice. Look at the labels — imported ingredients. Did Washington state drop out of the country? Are US apples that expensive to cause Nestle’s Juicy Juice not to use locally sourced ingredients when they sell into this market?
What about furniture? Middle class families apparently can’t afford anything that isn’t made of pressboard. US furniture manufacturers used to offer a “step above” the cheap temporary dreck.
On the flip side, I drive a car that was built in this country and didn’t come over on a ship. The brand is foreign owned. It’s a better car than anything coming out of Government Motors. They need to innovate and improve their quality. But I can’t buy the vehicle I really want because US meddling auto policy decided I can’t choose that vehicle anymore. I can’t even buy it overseas and import it. So much for consumer freedom.
Wisconsin used to have a lot of paper mills. With the advent of the internet, we’re simply not printing documents as much as we did fifteen years ago. Some of those jobs are lost to innovations in another area. That’s not coming back. I haven’t bought a hard copy of a book in over five years as I rely on electronic books starting a few years ago.
I am not one of those who freaked out about the Ford plant in Mexico. Quite frankly, Mexico is a great market for Ford to expand into to employ Mexicans to sell cars to South America. There’s a bigger issue there about repatriating the revenues generated from US companies selling overseas.
Same with the pharmaceutical companies. Would people be so protectionist that they wouldn’t import a superior drug to treat an ailment and simply settle for the inferior US product? And shouldn’t US pharma companies be able to manufacture in markets they serve when the money is supposed to come back to the US for research and development?
In export terms, I think we need to get less NIMBY about building more LNG terminals.
And when it comes to stupid taxes, the medical device tax chased a lot of manufacturing out of the country. Now we’re importing MRI machines and establishing US regulatory offices in foreign countries.
As for technology, I think this post is long enough.
So we need to look to see what’s affecting US exports outside of trade policy, and I’m anticipating great ideas from Trump’s tax plan.
Trade isn’t super complicated, and I hope I illustrated there shouldn’t be a one size fits all policy. We’re going to have trade deficits in certain areas, and surpluses in others. I’m not against renegotiating some trade deals, and they should build in some fluid or elastic elements — and they should have definite timelines so we can adjust terms.
This was a talking point of Duncan Hunter. Some remember him as an underdog favorite among true conservatives here on FR (that often got railroaded for not having mass appeal).
Nothing new, it was a plank in Duncan Hunter's presidential run.
Finally someone who will say we don’t have to honor ANY agreement that threatens outer security.
And Reagan was the first Republican to support such an idea. Lincoln didn’t, Ike didn’t Coolidge didn’t and TR didn’t. Maybe it’s time for a change. Free trade implies freedom to trade on all sides, or you FORCE markets open, ad BR did in the 1859s.
Superb point. Wish I had made it.
Yes!!! We need someone to look at these trade deals through the lens of what’s good for America and Americans. The globalist elites who push these things through are not patriots; they write these things to benefit themselves and their multinational corporate paymasters.
The restrictions placed on our products by countries like China and Japan, through tariffs, quotas, patent and trademark piracy, bureaucratic intransigence and other means, make our trade with these countries anything but free.
We don’t have a free market with these countries, which is why we have mounting trade deficits with them year after year, fool.
And the solution to that is, of course, to clamp down on free markets. Admit it, Trump is a socialist.
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