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To: defconw

Where does those three requirements come from? Can you provide the Scriptural support for them? If you can back up papal infallibility with the Bible that would help clear up a lot of confusion.

Some of us just aren’t all that trusting of fallen men. We follow the lead of the Bereans who nobly searched the Scriptures to see if what Paul and Silas taught was true (Acts 17). Christians are to “prove all things; hold fast that which is good.” If you can prove it from God’s Word, I promise you I will believe it. If you can’t prove it, I won’t...and neither should you.


7 posted on 09/25/2015 7:19:30 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt

It doesn’t need to be in the bible. It’s just business.
“The boss may not always be right, but he’s always the boss,” is how it is usually presented. If one is not Catholic, and I am not, what difference does it make?


10 posted on 09/25/2015 7:38:31 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Eagles fan after loss to Dallas -- This is the first time I ever saw the "prevent offense".)
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To: .45 Long Colt

“If you can prove it from God’s Word”

Where does scripture receive its endorsement and how was it selected and identified as authentic and thus worthy of belief? It was by the authority first and foremost of men consecrated by Jesus Christ and subsequently those consecrated by those men.

Thus, I can show you where in scripture it says to trust the leaders of the church but you cannot even show where the scriptures say that the written word is to be trusted above God’s prophets and teachers.

So stop pontificating in such fashion and take notice the wisdom and sanctity of leaders of the church (of whom, incidentally, “Francis” (Mr. Jorge Bergoglio) is not a part).

Paul urged the church to imitate himself in his virtue and pursuit and zeal for Jesus Christ. It’s a little simplistic to pit the Holy Bible against all the authoritative leaders whom Christ established with great wisdom and often miracles and always with consistency of doctrine including consistent with all that Jesus Christ said, taught, and did.

It is a little smug and shortsighted to assume that you can safely curl up in front of the fire and read the Holy Bible and you are safe, without the aid of the Church to interpret it properly. (Ask the apostle Paul, he is the one who according to the words of the New Testament, said that those who interpret the Scriptures on their own are in error.)


15 posted on 09/25/2015 9:39:28 AM PDT by Repent and Believe (...prelates must be questioned, even publicly, by their subjects. - Saint Thomas Aquinas)
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