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Russia Wants Texas and Puerto Rico to Secede
The Daily Beast ^ | September 24, 2015 | Casey Michel

Posted on 09/24/2015 8:08:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A sham conference held in Moscow this week was all about getting Western regions to break away.

It’s an open secret that the current Kremlin coterie has an obsession with “sovereignty.” Moscow may push the oddest version of sovereignty in the international arena. Not only was the country the progenitor of the notion of “sovereign democracy”—the ability to entrench autocracy, disguised as democracy, without foreign interference or pushback—but Moscow’s also lobbed recognitions of sovereignty far more frequently than any of its nearest competitors.

Are you a Georgian seaside region tired of Tbilisi’s demands? Are you a forested stretch of eastern Moldova, grating under Chisinau’s Western approach? Are you a landlocked Caucasian enclave, heaving with an independent streak? Then here you are, Abkhazia, Transdnistria, South Ossetia—here’s the recognition you wanted, courtesy of your patrons in Moscow. Here’s the independence, here’s the special status, you desired. Don’t worry about Western opposition, about the Westphalian order propping the decades-long streak of peace. If you want recognition, Moscow can provide it in droves.

Of course, there’s a double standard to Moscow’s call to break away. While these enclaves wishing recognition find a Kremlin ready to help, the sovereignty card becomes unplayable the moment they appear within Russia’s borders.

On Sunday, the Anti-Globalization Movement of Russia hosted the first “Dialog of Nations” conference in Moscow. Seeking to represent the “many small nations that have historical experience of political independence” and who “think about their revival”—and including a shot of shredding the U.S. flag — the conference was helmed by Alexander Ionov, a supporter of Western secession with ties to both a fundamentalist Orthodox party, Rodina, and Russia’s Anti-Maidan movement, a wellspring of pro-Moscow voices seeking to combat anti-Putinist ferment in Russia.

The conference hosted separatists from multiple Western nations—Ireland, Italy, Spain—in addition to a Western Sahara contingent. The greatest plurality of representatives, however, came from the United States. Russia has prior cultivated relations with separatists in Texas—who are attempting to land the question of secession on Texas’s GOP ballot—but Ionov and his organization have since expanded their reach among American separatists. (Ionov also lists the U.K.’s Stop the War Coalition, linked to Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, as one of his group’s foremost partners; a representative from Stop the War denied the partnership, saying they have “never had any dealings with it.”)

While the Texas contingent slotted for the conference did not arrive, and while no Native American representatives originally planned ended up showing—although Ionov met with a Native American representative this summer—the meeting saw leaders of independence movements from Hawaii, Puerto Rico, and the “Uhuru” black nationalist movements in attendance.

Out of Hawaii, Lanny Sinkin, representing the “Independent and Sovereign Nation State of Hawaii,” lobbied for the return of the erstwhile Hawaiian monarchy. (The proposed king, as it is, happens to be a felon with some 13 years behind bars.) Out of Puerto Rico, Ramon Nenadich, who had prior threatened to investigate the United States for “crimes of war and genocide … in its occupation of Puerto Rico,” staked his case. (Nenadich has his work cut out for him—in 2012, 61 percent of Puerto Rico’s populace opted for statehood, and only 5 percent sided with independence.) And representing the Uhuru movement, Chairman Omali Yeshitela called on Russia to push the claim before the United Nations that the United States had committed genocide against African Americans. “We’ve come to Moscow because it gives us an opportunity to break out of the encirclement that has been imposed on the struggle of African people in the United States,” Yeshitela said, before busting out Moscow-inspired rhetoric about U.S. bases “encircl[ing]” Russia and a “U.S. coup in Ukraine.”

Suffice it to say, the conference has thus far failed to galvanize any overwhelming separatist sentiment out of Honolulu, San Juan, or Austin. But outright secession isn’t Moscow’s immediate goal.

“The separatist conference in Moscow is part of the wider Kremlin strategy to undermine the West through supporting movements and organizations that aim at destabilizing state structures,” Anton Shekhovtsov, a researcher on Moscow’s links to far-right movements, told The Daily Beast. “This strategy is anything but new—the Soviet Union adopted the same tactics during the Cold War.”

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Further, when Yeshitela, nominally representing the U.S.’s African-American population, says that “Russia is under assault right now by the U.S. and imperialist powers,” Moscow’s domestic propaganda engine has further fodder to push its message.

Still, while the conference pushed nominal support for international secession movements, its crass geopoliticking shone through. You can tell the conference was a farce not simply because of who attended, but because of who wasn’t even invited. No representatives from East Turkestan or Tibet. None from West Papua or Baluchistan. This dearth helps highlight the second parameter for Russia’s willingness to recognize claims to sovereignty: Such secession movement, if it wants Russia’s support, exist in the West, or in those nations—say, Morocco—that remain firmly ensconced in the West’s camp. There’s no sense, from Moscow’s perspective, in supporting movements under the thumb of nations Russia could theoretically woo. In its lack of support for Karakalpak (an Uzbek ethnic group prone to restiveness) or Kashmiri movements, in its avoidance of touching the topics of Cabindan or Anjouan separatists, we can witness the fallacies—further hangover from Soviet declamations—within these claims of supporting sovereignty and secession.

And, of course, there’s no sense in looking for any Russian representatives in the conference. None from Tatarstan or Siberia. None from the Crimean Tatar population the Russian government so readily represses. None from Chechnya—odd, considering the pair of wars fought within recent memory to combat Chechen secession. The conference hosted none who would, in any way, call into question the territorial integrity of Russia. Such call would find any individual liable for a prompt, years-long prison sentence.

As such, if you’re a secession movement in the West, you’ll find a ready, willing audience in Moscow—but if you expect to find any Chechens, Tatars, or Siberians seeking their own sovereignty, your disappointment will find a transom of hypocrisy too thick to cross.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cwii; puertorico; putin; russia; texas
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1 posted on 09/24/2015 8:08:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Communists never give up, even after they’ve lost.


2 posted on 09/24/2015 8:12:37 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, like we all say down here, if at first you don’t secede,,,, try try again!


3 posted on 09/24/2015 8:12:45 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: TBP
That is more than can be said for Bonehead Boehner and Turtle Face Mitch Mcdumbo.
4 posted on 09/24/2015 8:14:59 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Any separatists there representing Washington D.C.? If they were to secede from the U.S.A., most of our problems would go away.


5 posted on 09/24/2015 8:23:46 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; SunkenCiv

Chechnya, Tibet, and Petoria not invited.


6 posted on 09/24/2015 8:26:36 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Seems that the Russian leader better understands what us Texans are going through than our ELECTED Republican leaders in DC.

Not really surprised.


7 posted on 09/24/2015 8:30:36 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As a Texan, I’d like to oblige Russia.

I regard myself a Texan first and foremost. American? Not so much anymore. Not since the country has decayed into such a noxiously faggoty cesspool.


8 posted on 09/24/2015 8:36:28 PM PDT by greene66
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I want Texas to secede as well.


9 posted on 09/24/2015 8:38:06 PM PDT by austingirl
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Has Obama turned them over to Russia yet?


10 posted on 09/24/2015 8:39:03 PM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield ("Diversity is a code word for white genocide.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can you imagine Texas and Russia taking on the leftist American Coasts, where they think guns are a bad thing?

There was a thread here on FR yesterday about the last gun shop closing in SF.


11 posted on 09/24/2015 8:47:50 PM PDT by Vision Thing ("Community Organizer" is a shorter way of saying "Commie Unity Organizer".)
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To: greene66

I’m all for Texas seceding. Please have immigration laws that allow me to move to Texas, that’s all I ask.


12 posted on 09/24/2015 8:50:23 PM PDT by Defiant (I wouldn't have to mansplain if it weren't for all those wymidiots.)
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To: austingirl

There is a reason Texas is called The Lone Star State.


13 posted on 09/24/2015 8:57:07 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: austingirl
I want Texas to secede as well.

Well who doesn't want Texas to succeed?! No one is making sense here tonight.

14 posted on 09/24/2015 8:59:29 PM PDT by Cry if I Wanna (A)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Russia Wants Texas and Puerto Rico to Secede

I want New York and California to secede.

15 posted on 09/24/2015 9:52:53 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron

I want a divorce. They can join up with Canada and/or Mexico or the EU. We’ll remain the United States in some form. We’ll split the military. Everyone will have three months to decide which country they prefer and then the gates come crashing down.


16 posted on 09/24/2015 10:00:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: Vision Thing

Hold on there Tex. On the west coast don’t start shooting until ya get about 20 miles from the coast. You’ll be passing through mostly friendly lines until then.


17 posted on 09/24/2015 10:52:34 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

I think Putin is wise enough to stay away from the hostile territory 20 miles inland. :)


18 posted on 09/24/2015 11:28:03 PM PDT by Vision Thing ("Community Organizer" is a shorter way of saying "Commie Unity Organizer".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

PR should definitely secede.


19 posted on 09/25/2015 1:13:23 AM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well given the Constitution is not high on the progressive`s list of beloved documents, why would it then be a suicide pact for us all?


20 posted on 09/25/2015 3:48:11 AM PDT by nomad
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