A Prayer from Matt Drudge

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[pbear8]

The "Vatican Mansion" houses many offices and some officials already so where would you put everybody? The Papal Apartment has a couple of bedrooms, an office, a Chapel and sitting room and a dining room.

Yes, from Apostolic times, the Church has cared for the sick and dying and therefore many Orders run hospitals.

The artwork which men have created to give glory to God belongs to all of us. Would you have it sold and the collection broken up amongst wealthy pagans? In the Vatican Museums they may be enjoyed by all visitors.

[ladyjane]

but as a Catholic I would never want to see the Catholic Church and it's traditions and places of worship dismantled.

Unfortunately millions here in this country have seen their churches and schools closed because of legal bills and bankruptcies.

[Just mythoughts]

Their survival is contingent upon the taking without representation from non-Catholics.... A slippery slope has been taken, hence Catholic supreme justice Roberts stamped his approval upon state run Kennedy care... Commonly called obamacare... It was reported that Catholic president Kennedy stated he would rather be ‘red’ than dead.... We are there and using that word ‘conservative’ as if to cover is not going to return freedom to the living souls in this nation! Reality is what it is regardless of the depth and breath of deception.

[Mom MD]

You fail to see the irony The pope is talking about caring for the poor sitting on one of the largest collections of wealth on the planet When brought up you talk about hospitals and orphanages When called on it you then have a reason not to sell The goal of the true Church (the one made up of all the redeemed not your particular sect) is not to amass wealth In this game he who dies with the most toys is not considered the winner We are to store treasure in heaven not here.

[pbear8]

The artwork gives glory to God and should be shared with all and not have the art broken up and sold to the highest bidder. Much of the collection was commissioned by the Vatican centuries ago to patronize artists and create beautiful images which lift our minds to God. Even if you sold the artwork you could perhaps feed the world for one day. Then what?

You could sell your wedding ring because you treasure it but God does not require that of you.

Relax, the way things are going the Islamics will destroy it all anyway.

[Syncro]

The "Vatican Mansion" houses many offices and some officials already so where would you put everybody?

You are right to put quotes around Vatican Mansion. My bad.

It's not a mansion, it is a palace.

It is also known as the Papal Palace and the Palace of the Vatican. The Vatican itself refers to the building as the Palace of Sixtus V in honor of Pope Sixtus V.

Plenty of room.

The Papal Apartment has a couple of bedrooms, an office, a Chapel and sitting room and a dining room.

That's the Papal Apartments

And Francis doesn't live there. He lives in the Vatican guesthouse--a suite, quite large and opulent, as fitting for a king in a palace.

The artwork which men have created to give glory to God belongs to all of us. Would you have it sold and the collection broken up amongst wealthy pagans?

Would that be a rule, only sold to pagans? [interesting "leading" question.] Not to museums reachable by those that can't come to the Vatican? Not to Christians? Not to Catholics?

Yes, from Apostolic times, the Church has cared for the sick and dying

Apostolic times, when was that. And am I correct in assuming when you capitalize "Church" it means the Catholic church?

Thanks for posting a reply.

[pbear8]

Yes, the Apostolic Palace, I know many people who have visited and worked there. It is an office building and a few people live there. The Papal Apartments are on the top floor overlooking St Peter's Square. As I mentioned they consist of a few rooms which you can see on a youtube video. St Matha's (the guesthouse) is hardly opulent, look at pictures online. Here is a link for pictures of his rooms - https://franciscusi.wordpress.com/tag/guesthouse-domus-sanctae-marthae-suite-201/

Breaking up an art collection is unwise, from time to time some of the artwork is sent out to other museums as a special exhibit.

Yes, the Catholic Church which has been around for nearly 2000 years.

[Syncro]

The Papal Apartments are on the top floor overlooking St Peter's Square. As I mentioned they consist of a few rooms

If there are only "a few" rooms they must be giant and could each hold several families.

Here is a link for pictures of his rooms

In this building.
Which contains 106 suites, 22 single rooms and one apartment

That's a lot more than "a few" rooms. It's hundreds of rooms.

The lobby to his humble abode.
This lobby and his rooms are filled with piceless antiques.

You figure the woman and child ("family") he took in have a suite as nice as his?

They could put a couple of hundred families or more in these "few rooms."

Breaking up an art collection is unwise

Wisdom of God or wisdom of man?

Remember what Jesus said to the rich man:

Jesus said, “If you want to be complete, go, sell what you own, and give the money to the poor. Then you will have treasure in heaven. And come follow me.”²² But when the young man heard this, he went away saddened, because he had many possessions.

Yes, the Catholic Church which has been around for nearly 2000 years.

No it hasn't. Christianity has been around since Jesus walked the earth.

Catholicism started about 3 centuries later, although "catholic" was used to refer to the universal church made up of every born again believer in Jesus.

There are Catholics in His church, His Body.

Yes, I know what Catholicism teaches.

Christians have a different view.

We do not accept the teaching that only those in the Catholic denomination have a pathway to heaven and salvation.

Hopefully the pope will follow the Biblical path to God.

Thanks for the inspiration for my new tag line!

^_________>Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved--Acts 16:31

[pbear8]

These buildings have purpose, they have offices and living spaces for those who work in Vatican City. Much work is done in them and it is sensible to have things at hand. Look up ‘papal apartment’ and you can see the floor plan. Perhaps you could suggest to the Pope that he should redecorate them to your liking. Read the early church fathers, they were all Catholic.

[Syncro]

Somehow I knew you would never agree to help the helpless of the world by agreeing that the Vatican and it’s resources should do something meaningful right there where the pope lives.

Now I will answer your post, stay tuned.

[Syncro]

Snark and then tell me to read the early church fathers. (I will continue to read the Bible)

Who are you to declare that disciples and apostles of Jesus were Catholics?

Nonsense, there were no Catholics back then.

There were only Christians.

The magic of the third century retroactively made many that walked and talked with Jesus into "Catholics", and even made a retroactive pope and then several more to "catch up." Read the Bible instead of men's writings.

It is the Word of God, God breathed and inspired by the Holy Spirit.

To whom you should pray for discernment and wisdom to understand the scriptures.

Start with the Gospel of John, give yourself enough time to read it straight through.

If you listen very carefully to what the Holy Spirit is teaching you you will be quite edified.

[tanknetter]

This Pope is actually very, and ironically (epicly so) ... Capitalistic ... in how he’s running the Church.

He’s looking to rejuvenate the Church by filling pews. Cuba represents a massive untapped vein of faith, and he doesn’t want to end up back in an adversarial relationship with a dictatorial government that’s only recently started loosening prohibitions on the practice of his Faith. Tick off the Castros and the Church might find itself shut out for another couple decades. So he’s going to play nice with them.

Then he comes to the US and shifts his message. He’s betting that appeals on issues that matter to Liberals will get them back into the pews without costing him much in the way of Conservatives who leave. Probably also considering that the Conservatives will largely die out over the next 20-30 years while the upcoming Millennials who will provide the bulk of future Churchgoers will be much more Liberal in their outlook.

This is all business management 101.

[Syncro]

It's a business.

Must keep those bucks coming in.

It's amazing how many Catholics there are here that are badmouthing the pope.

Makes one wonder if they are looked down upon by the leadership for not following pope rules that all living beings MUST be in subjection to the pope.

They must be torn, some open and even caucus threads they are saying things about Catholicism that would get a Protestant/Evangelical/Christian possibly banned.

The bottom line is the bottom line. Period.

[pbear8]

If you listen very carefully to what the Holy Spirit is teaching you you will be quite edified

Thanks, I have, that is why I am Catholic.

[Syncro]

You missed a sentence, try this:

Start with the Gospel of John, give yourself enough time to read it straight through.

If you listen very carefully to what the Holy Spirit is teaching you can become a born again Christian with an assurance of salvation.

[pbear8]

Thank you. My reply again is that the Holy Spirit has shown his Love and Grace to me, a sinner, in the Holy Catholic Church.

[Syncro]

You are very fortunate.

Keep the faith in Jesus and read the scriptures about being born again to have an assurance of salvation.

[pbear8]

Working out my salvation in fear and trembling as you do.

[MacMattico]

And there are other religious and non religious charity groups that take my tax dollars and I have no say. But if they are truly helping the poor I have no problem with that. And I’ve seen just amazing things that Catholic groups have done to help those in need, because I happen to be there to see it happen. It’s not publicized, though. So many look down upon it I guess.