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Hope this helps someone today.
1 posted on 09/19/2015 6:13:19 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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If a Christian commits suicide is their soul damned to Hell?
60 posted on 09/19/2015 11:24:05 PM PDT by jmacusa
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"...Now, if Russell had been reasoning and speaking in terms of the Christian worldview, his attempt to assess moral wisdom, human worthiness, and moral progress -- as well as to adversely judge shortcomings in these matters -- would be understandable and expected. Christians have a universal, objective and absolute standard of morality in the revealed word of God. But obviously Russell did not mean to be speaking as though he adopted Christian premises and perspectives! On what basis, then, could Russell issue his moral evaluations and judgments? In terms of what view of reality and knowledge did he assume that there was anything like an objective criterion of morality by which to find Christ, Christians, and the church lacking?

Russell was embarrassingly arbitrary in this regard. He just took it for granted, as an unargued philosophical bias, that there was a moral standard to apply, and that he could presume to be the spokesman and judge who applies it. One could easily counter Russell by simply saying that he had arbitrarily chosen the wrong standard of morality. To be fair, Russell's opponents must be granted just as much arbitrariness in choosing a moral standard, and they may then select one different from his own. And there goes his argument down in defeat." - Greg Bahnsen


64 posted on 09/20/2015 4:49:07 AM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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73 posted on 09/20/2015 6:54:08 AM PDT by Faith65 (Isaiah 40:31)
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85 posted on 09/20/2015 10:38:42 AM PDT by advertising guy (.................... I`m not Catholic, but hell , neither is the Pope.............)
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This thread could be interesting.


115 posted on 09/21/2015 6:50:25 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (The federal government retards me.)
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Romans 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not! 15 For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.”[f] 16 So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.”[g] 18 Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens. 19 You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?” 20 But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor? 22 What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, 24 even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
117 posted on 09/21/2015 7:05:51 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (The federal government retards me.)
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In addition to that, those condemned to hell will go on sinning for eternity. There is no repentance in hell. So the punishment will continue as long as the sinning does.

Yes, just because a lost sinner dies, does not make them suddenly repentant. They are still the same evil person that they were on earth. Even in Hell, they continue to commit sins. My opinion, and just my opinion, is that they will grow more and more evil as the eons of eternity roll on. I do not think there is s bottom limit on how evil a lost sinner can become, throughout eternity, although, at the same time, I think it is not all that important either. 🔥😫

119 posted on 09/21/2015 8:35:05 AM PDT by Mark17 (Heaven, where the only thing there that's been made by man are the scars in the hands of Jesus)
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