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To: livius
"Get a grip. People were interested in the debate, not CNN. That’s a good thing, in case you’ve forgotten that we’re still living in a democracy."

While I agree with CNN comment, I have to nitpick. We don't live in a democracy (majority rule). We live in a Republic (equal rule), or at least used to.

I will NEVER give up reminding people of the brilliance of the Founding Fathers for not creating a "democracy". Their debates, publications, letters, diaries all indicated that democracies fail because the minority has little to no say. Democracy is 2 wolves and 1 lamb deciding what to have for dinner. A Republic is 2 wolves and 2 lambs with a broad sword deciding what's for dinner.

18 posted on 09/17/2015 10:03:35 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet

Communism IS democracy..

Communists murder or imprison ALL that do not like Communism
The ONLY ones left like communism and vote for it.. therefore communism is then democratic..

Same with Sharia law.. very very democratic.. in that way..

The Russians decided to BRAIN WASH the people from toddler to mature adult into Communists(socialists).. same result..

As has been done and is being done in America as we speak..

Democracy is nasty..


19 posted on 09/17/2015 10:09:52 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: A Navy Vet

I agree that a republic was the objective of the Founders. Unfortunately, with the 17th Amendment, I think that got lost. However, I think that if we work at it, we can make it a decent democracy (which is not to be understood as mob rule or caudillo-ism, since mobs always want a leader, the Man on the White Horse).

To me this debate really looked as if the voters were getting a chance to view all the candidates with their weaknesses or strengths.

The GOP has between 10 and 15 possible candidates, most of them relatively young or at any rate way under retirement age. The Dems, on the other hand, have only 3 geriatric socialist candidates, with wacky Bernie leading simply because he’s so wacky. And he’s not even a Dem, he’s an Independent.

So if we can get a good candidate, we win. And it will be a process of elimination, hopefully, this time, not dominated by money (Romney had big bucks, including his own, and both Trump and Bush have big bucks) but by what candidate could win. I’m already donating to my favorite...


20 posted on 09/17/2015 10:15:07 AM PDT by livius
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