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Malcolm Turnbull stole the prime ministership he could not have won (Australia)
Herald Sun (Melbourne Australia) ^ | 15th September 2015 | Andrew Bolt

Posted on 09/14/2015 3:09:10 PM PDT by naturalman1975

MALCOLM Turnbull has replaced Tony Abbott as Prime Minister because the Liberals let his bull weaken their nerve and bury their judgment.

Here’s Turnbull’s challenge in a nutshell: he stole the prime ministership he could not have won in an election.

He stole it by boasting of superior communication skills he does not have.

He will now campaign on successes by Abbott he could not have achieved himself.

And he will now be the leader of a party he cannot unite.

What have the Liberals done? Many of their members will be distraught and disgusted.

Whether Turnbull wins the next election or loses, conservative Liberals will feel they have lost already, now that a man of such “progressive” views has snatched the leadership of their party.

They may as well vote Labor next time, because only if Labor wins could they again have a party for conservatives.

Sure, Turnbull has one big advantage over Abbott.

The media and the Twittersphere have been absolutely feral in savaging Abbott, a man awkward in his own defence, but have been kind to Turnbull.

But the media always favours Labor in any contest, and what the media gives Turnbull today it could withdraw tomorrow.

(Excerpt) Read more at heraldsun.com.au ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australia; australiaelection; malcolmturnbull; tonyabbott; turnbull

1 posted on 09/14/2015 3:09:10 PM PDT by naturalman1975
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To: naturalman1975

Please break it down for us Yanks who don’t know Aussie politics. :-)


2 posted on 09/14/2015 3:14:04 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: naturalman1975

Turnbull


3 posted on 09/14/2015 3:14:12 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: naturalman1975

Without knowing, I’m guessing that if a newspaper is complaining about Malcolm Turnbull, he must be a Conservative, or at least more conservative than the alternative.

Can someone fluent in Aussie politics translate? Does Australia now have a Conservative Prime Minister?


4 posted on 09/14/2015 3:15:34 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: naturalman1975
Sounds like a description of how Boehner and McConnell got their jobs.
5 posted on 09/14/2015 3:17:08 PM PDT by Defiant (I will vote for the candidate that the GOPe and media hate the most.)
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To: naturalman1975

Sounds like the “help” and support the US media has been giving - is still giving! - Jeb Bush. Push him as long as he is not against a liberal democrat.


6 posted on 09/14/2015 3:18:02 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Nervous Tick

I think Turnbull is their Jeb.


7 posted on 09/14/2015 3:24:26 PM PDT by KC Burke (Ceterum censeo Islam esse delendam)
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To: Eccl 10:2

The opposite, actually. Imagine the difference between Christie (Turnbull), i.e. darling of the Australian press until the next election, when he will be savaged as they work to put Labour in power ... vs. say, Walker, a genuine albeit imperfect Conservative with a proven record of accomplishment but not especially glib or TV gameshow host smooth. The one policy difference I’m aware of is that Turnbull drinks deeply of the Global Warming Kool-Aid while Abbott did not. In other words, as this article implies, the Liberals (”liberal” in the classic sense, more or less equivalent to the GOP here) have screwed the pooch.


8 posted on 09/14/2015 3:28:01 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Eccl 10:2
Without knowing, I’m guessing that if a newspaper is complaining about Malcolm Turnbull, he must be a Conservative, or at least more conservative than the alternative.

Exactly the opposite - Malcolm Turnbull is a centrist who has replaced a conservative.

9 posted on 09/14/2015 3:28:01 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Eccl 10:2; Nervous Tick

Turnbull challenged PM Abbott to a leadership review within their own party; Turnbull won 54-44.

So he will soon automatically be sworn in as Prime Minister of Australia, WITHOUT going thru an election, because in Westminster democracies, it’s the party that is elected, not the PM.

That’s the controversy (it’s happened in Canada, too).


10 posted on 09/14/2015 3:31:21 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Eccl 10:2

Andrew Bolt, the writer, and the Herald Sun are conservative. So I suspect that Turnbull is the Australian equivalent of a RINO. Tim Blair doesn’t like him either and Tim is a good conservative!


11 posted on 09/14/2015 3:31:36 PM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: canuck_conservative

That’s too bad.

Their liberal party must contain a majority of left-leaning squishes, just like our republican party does.

Thanks for the insight, and FRegards


12 posted on 09/14/2015 3:33:58 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: naturalman1975

Turnbull was a managing director at Goldman Sachs, from 2001 to 2008, I believe.

I guess abbott wasn’t making the Globalists happy. Kinda like what they did in Italy a few years back when they replaced the Prime Minister (w/out an election) with the head of the European arm of the Trilateral Commission, Mario Monte.


13 posted on 09/14/2015 3:42:03 PM PDT by Vic S
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To: naturalman1975
I don't know much about Australian politics, so...


14 posted on 09/14/2015 3:45:36 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Eccl 10:2

The Herald Sun is a good paper, with conservative instincts. The “Liberals” are the Conservatives in Australia. The wonderful John Howard was a Liberal and the last great Australian Prime Minister, IMO.Following John Howard came unhappy years of Labor government under the feckless and ineffective tweedledee tweedledum pair of Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard.

Abbot recovered the Prime Ministership for the Liberals in 2013. He is pretty conservative but the press kept him on the defensive over every initiative, and he was not very effective at countering the press..

Malcomb Turnbull is a self-promoting opportunist who was a chance to take the Prime Ministership in a party leadership vote (Parliamentary System - remember?)

Historically parties divided this way have not done well at the polls next time out, so this probably augurs for a Labor takeover in the next general election.

So to answer your question: “Does Australia now have A conservative Prime Minister?”

In a pigs eye. This was a definite setback for Conservative Australians. The disaster will come when Labor gets back in.


15 posted on 09/14/2015 3:46:34 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: naturalman1975

RE: The media and the Twittersphere have been absolutely feral in savaging Abbott, a man awkward in his own defence, but have been kind to Turnbull.

Ha ha ha, kind only to a point. There is method in the madness here.

The media WANT Turnbull to be the leader BECAUSE:

1) Many of his stated policies match closely with Labor ( e.g. Carbon Credit schemes, same-sex marriage, abortion ).

2) They know that between Labor-lite and Labor, people will prefer the real deal.

In other words, the Liberal Party just screwed themselves by abandoning Abbot.


16 posted on 09/14/2015 4:26:36 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (What is the difference between Obama and government bonds? Government bonds will mature someday)
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To: SeekAndFind

You would think conservatives would have learned by now to not let the media pick their leaders for them. The election results in the UK showed these media polls cannot be trusted and even if they are accurate electing a leftist to lead a conservative party is not a winning strategy.

It is also a long time until the elections and the candidates aren’t being closely looked at by most people or in full campaign mode yet. Polls at this point in time even if accurate are not that relevant.

I guess the only positive is they will now lose to labor with a leftist leader at the helm and for the following election will hopefully have enough sense to run a conservative again and win again.

That said, the Abbott government hasn’t been conservative as I would have liked but given what just happened that was probably a party problem rather than an Abbott problem. Like many conservatives he was too nice to people who only wanted to stab him in the back.


17 posted on 09/14/2015 5:28:09 PM PDT by JohnCorvinus
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To: naturalman1975

Last I heard Turnbull favors calling homosexuals living together, ‘marriage’. Not good. Every Australian I’ve talked to ranges from bewildered to disgusted by this. Five prime ministers in five years. And Barnaby Joyce looks thrilled by it.


18 posted on 09/15/2015 3:14:50 AM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: Eccl 10:2
Without knowing, I’m guessing .....

Don't do that.

19 posted on 09/15/2015 7:25:46 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Malcom Turnbull wants power too much to do the honorable thing)
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