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Why Russia has boosted its military presence in Syria now
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | September 9th, 2015 | By Nicholas Blanford

Posted on 09/10/2015 7:19:18 PM PDT by Mariner

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To: Mariner

What NATO policy? This is way beyond NATO’s authority and region of influence. I don’t think, with the exception of France, no one in Europe wants to get involved in this mess.

I’ll go ahead and predict within a hundred days....some US unmanned drone will be shot down by the Russians. Some hostility will brew up, and we will go into some weird reactionary phase against the Russians. Oddly, they are the only stabilizing force in Syria currently. Whatever the US and the Saudis did in the beginning to create ISIS and it’s threat in the region....that really was a five-star screw-up.


21 posted on 09/10/2015 10:24:10 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: gusty

“I do not see Russia conducting any offensive operations against ISIS for the simple reason that Russia cannot maintain the logistical means to accomplish this mission.”

Since the rumors of “Active” Russian involvement in Syria began three weeks ago, the rebel stronghold in the Damascus suburbs “Surrendered” after a “lightening strike” by some special forces against the ISIS command there.

They signed a “Ceasefire”/surrender, that allows the rebels to leave Damascus for Lebanon, with personal arms, but they have to leave the heavy weapons/missiles behind.

This was just last weekend.

Bottom line, no one has gone after ISIS “Seriously”, yet. If Russia “Unleashes the hounds” against them, something Obama has actively PREVENTED, they will likely fall apart pretty quickly.


22 posted on 09/10/2015 10:53:37 PM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: SteveAustin; All

It’s nice to think that Putin may be hurting because their oil is selling so cheap.


23 posted on 09/11/2015 12:33:23 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Same feeling here. My gut feeling is to trust a traditional enemy more than our own leaders.


24 posted on 09/11/2015 4:02:53 AM PDT by redfreedom (All it takes for evil to win is for good people to do nothing - that's how the left took over.)
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To: gusty

Syria is Putin’s toehold in the ME. He will want influence in picking Assad’s successor.


25 posted on 09/11/2015 5:17:55 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Mariner
You made me look up the Bloomberg article. This paragraph below shows the Obama was kept in the dark by his own State Dept and that the State Dept is run by a bunch of amateurs.

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-09-10/russia-s-syrian-air-base-has-u-s-scrambling-for-a-plan

The State Department had already begun pushing back against the Russian moves, for example by asking Bulgaria and Greece to deny overflight permissions to Syria-bound Russian transport planes. But the president didn't know about these moves in advance, two officials said, and when he found out, he was upset with the department for not having a more complete and vetted process to respond to the crisis.

26 posted on 09/11/2015 6:25:04 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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The kenyan micromanages everything out of the White Hut. Everything is supposed to go through the NSA at the WH.


27 posted on 09/11/2015 7:07:55 AM PDT by lodi90
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Or State Dept. thought that they can handle it better by leaving Obama out of the loop. Past track record shows that he has not been really helpful in stabilizing the situation. Although State Dept. is not the shining example of competence, they thought that Obama makes thing worse for them if he meddles in.
28 posted on 09/11/2015 7:14:50 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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Or State Dept. thought that they can handle it better by leaving Obama out of the loop. Past track record shows that he has not been really helpful in stabilizing the situation. Although State Dept. is not the shining example of competence, they thought that Obama makes thing worse for them if he meddles in.

I did not think of it that way - that is very plausible. It does seem on foreign policy Obama's State has been a mess since Hillary.

29 posted on 09/11/2015 7:18:10 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Or State Dept. thought that they can handle it better by leaving Obama out of the loop. Past track record shows that he has not been really helpful in stabilizing the situation. Although State Dept. is not the shining example of competence, they thought that Obama makes thing worse for them if he meddles in.


I read an article on this a few weks back. Seems that El Presidente Obongo is managing everything through a massively enlarged NSC at the WH. And State hates him for that.


30 posted on 09/11/2015 8:03:26 AM PDT by lodi90
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Here’s the article with the dirt on the NSC/State battle:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/how-the-obama-white-house-runs-foreign-policy/2015/08/04/2befb960-2fd7-11e5-8353-1215475949f4_story.html


31 posted on 09/11/2015 8:05:50 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
It is ultimately all about Israel. Israel wary of Russian military build-up in Syria - Middle ...
32 posted on 09/11/2015 9:43:51 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: Mariner

It won’t be a surprise if an influx of Taliban fighters show up on the battleground.


33 posted on 09/11/2015 10:01:00 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I doubt Russia will get too invested in this debacle. It looks like a tar baby.


34 posted on 09/11/2015 10:04:13 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: lodi90; All

Why couldn’t a pipeline go through southern Iraq and Turkey if ISIL can be gotten out of the way. Granted the Kurds could be a problem, but I think that could be solved.


35 posted on 09/11/2015 2:19:05 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Hugin

....”It’s simple, Russians don’t abandon their allies, something the USA always does when Democrats get power. Assad is in danger of complete collapse, and Putin will do what he can to save him. Unfortunately Assad is the only alternative to ISIS or Al Qaeda, so I wish the Russians well in this case.”....

I agree....and all parties want Russia in the fight against ISIS...But Russia wants the ‘Syrian Army’ in this coalition as well, which would mean Obama’s desire for regime/region change and land-locking Russia would go down the tubes.

Russia and Assad have been negotiating diplomatically with the Rebels for shared power,....which you would think any solution to Syria at this juncture would be great so that they can go after ISIS.


36 posted on 09/11/2015 10:53:15 PM PDT by caww (t)
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To: lodi90

NSC is chocked full of Muslims Bo’s appointed...so you can bet their input isn’t in our best interests.


37 posted on 09/11/2015 10:57:55 PM PDT by caww (t)
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