30 million guest workers, who will breed like rabbits for more welfare.
NO
Ben, over 2/3 of Americans like this plan.You just stewed your own tomatoes with that position
Freegards
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They key to Trump’s plan is to shut off the influx. If you don’t shut off the influx, nothing you do will ever work.
If you want a guest worker program that gives illegals legal status, and you don’t shut the gate, you’ll only bring in millions more. And if you don’t have the political will to expel people who are here illegally, you aren’t going to have the will to deny them residency after they’ve been here a few years as guest workers. And again, if you haven’t shut the gate, you’ll only bait the hook for millions more to make the trek north.
What the heck is with most of our candidates this year? why are they all so quick to destroy themselves?
Et tu, Ben?
And I’m disappointed in Jindal too.
Not because they criticized Trump, but because they’re following orders from the party bosses. And that makes them look like a patsy.
Facts:
1) Except in the very odd/exceptional election year of 1964, the Dems haven’t cracked 50% of the whites in a Presidential election since 1932.
2) Once the ‘64 election was over, the Dems understood that they would never win another Presidential election again unless the Republicans REALLY screwed up...or unless they changed the electorate in a dramatic way.
3) The Dems, courtesy of Bobby Kennedy who wrote the law, and Teddy Kennedy who pushed it in the Senate, passed the 1965 Immigration Act. That law dramatically reduced immigration from our then-traditional large sources of immigrants - England, Ireland, Holland, Germany, etc. - and replaced them with vast numbers of Turd Worlders...whom everyone knows vote around 80% for Dems, and will continue to do so for the rest of their lives, as new immigrants have traditionally done.
4) As a result of the ‘65 Act, and due to the Dem’s outright lying in ‘86 regarding an effective (or any) fence, there are now probably 30 - 40 million illegals in this nation. Note that the (probably low-ball) figure in 2005 was 11 million...we have 2-3 million come in every year, so simple math says that the number is actually somewhere between 31 and 41 million). If any substantial portion of these people ever become citizens, then the Dems will have accomplished a complete shift of the electorate, and will be virtually invincible on the national level. Every state will become like California, both politically and economically - which is to say, overwhelming Dem and broke. But at least if you don’t like California now, you can leave for a better place without much trouble - where are you going to go if EVERY state is like that?
5) Every Republican, and every Conservative voter MUST UNDERSTAND that if such a state of affairs comes to be, NO OTHER ISSUE WILL MATTER AT ALL, because we will ALWAYS AND FOREVER lose on those issues. Immigration is THE issue of this election, and this election is as critical as the 1860 election was - and for the same reason, because it will determine whether this nation continues on as it has existed in the past, or becomes a new and unrecognizable entity that simply occupies the same geographic territory.
Please wake up, and help others to do so by sending them this post (or recommending “Adios America” to them). It really is THAT important.
That’s the first dumb thing I’ve heard Carson utter.
Where are we gonna send them?
How about we drop them off at their home ports and let their countries of origin sort them out?
In fact, the latest polls do not show Carson closing the gap on Trump, be it a national or state (Iowa, New Hampshire or South Carolina) poll. NBC making a story out of thin air. Of course, if Carson were to be the GOP nominee NBC would make up other stories to tear him down.
And another one is recruited by the Chamber of amnesty.
Well, Ben, you ain’t “ my guy” but I have been trying to defend you all morning but not on this. If we can’t afford to send them back how in the world can we pay them to stay?
I do not think it is wise to dismiss mass deportation out of hand. What thought process went into Carson’s remarks? Has he studied this to the extent necessary so that he may say with confidence, “No can do?” I tend to be of the same mind, namely that the solution is not as simple as mass deportation. I’d like to turn the best immigrants into devout, conservative Americans (no matter what their ethnic background) and send the rest, along with their white liberal cheerleaders packing for Cuba or Mexico. That does not seem to be a practical approach either.
A reliable source recently reported that each ILLEGAL family here imposes around a $700,000.00 per year total burden on the system (perfect for obozo’s Cloward-Piven strategy to bankrupt the nation).
Assume 7 members (direct and extended) per family. That comes in at 100 grand per individual.
While I suspect the number is far higher, let’s say there are only 11 million here now. If I’ve done the math correctly, 100 grand times 11 million comes to 1.1 trillion per year.
Dr. Carson and others have commented that sending these folks back to their homelands would be too costly.
I don’t know about you, but lessening of the annual burden by over a TRILLION BUCKS, would have us square with that up front cost in a couple years. Then maybe we could devote some time and resources to getting the LEGALS jobs and out of obozo’s comfy welfare HAMMOCK!
While any of this requires that we run off obozo and his merry band of malicious and mendacious miscreants, it sure sounds like a plan and a bargain to me!
Would a white physician, who has never been elected to anything, and who has never run anything larger than a hospital department, be on on stage with governors and senators?
Carson should thank everyone for his 15 minutes, and then run in a Democrat congressional primary on his platform of open borders, and endless mass immigration from the third world.
Disappointing. It’ll be interesting to see whether this will end his surge. I think it will.
I’m a Cruz supporter, but I did like Ben Carson, too. However, now that Carson has revealed his squishiness on THIS particular HUGE issue, I can’t imagine that it wouldn’t have a negative impact on his poll numbers.
I doubt we could ever do mass deportations, but just cutting off the supply cold, ASAP, would be a great start.
Trump has eluded to the waste in our government. Maybe Dr. Carson should consider President Trump cutting much of it thus freeing up billions that can then be used to round up and exile the 20 to 30 million illegal immigrants
Who is this Carson? I have it on good authority from countless Trump followers that if you don’t support Trump you’re a Bushbot RINO establishment lackey. Did a 3rd candidate very recently enter the race?
You make the criminal and economic penalties and fines from EMPLOYING them a crushing and devastating deterrent.
You do this by turning it into a cash cow with tax free rewards taken from those financially eviscerating fines.
I`d fine 50% of the net worth of a company or person found to be employing an illegal and give a major portion of those proceeds, up to half, to those that turn in those particular illegals and their employers. No one will dare to hire them.
Add to that similar fines and/or criminal penalties for hiding, aiding, as well as giving taxpayer largess to illegals and they`ll SELF DEPORT!
The remaining illegals are career criminals who can be dealt with thru the criminal justice system before MANDATORY deportation.
E-verify and let things take its natural course. Maybe painfully slow for some and then not fast enough for others but it will work and is “fair”. Of course for it to work our laws need to be enforced.
A point is often made about visitors over staying their visas...my understanding this happens a LOT. I know someone that happened too and he regrets it to this day...from outside the USA.
He was ready to leave and “friends” told him...” Hey, its ok to stay a few more days”. WRONG LOL. No more USA Visas
He isnt a bad guy and I see him often when I visit Colombia.