Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

One can only hope that the "comical" man on the street videos are not the the norm. Sadly, it does seem that way. Are there smart kids out there? For sure but we never hear much about them. Does kind of make the case for home schooling. Which the 'powers that be' want to eliminate. No free thinking for you! Lucky for us if uncle bernie wins, colleges and universities will be FREE. Woo Hoo! So nobody has to pay for utilities, the profs will all work for free, all the books will be free. Man it doesn't get much better than that. Probably get free ben and jerry's ice cream too. Maybe we need to change it to "free dumb" for all.
1 posted on 09/08/2015 9:12:04 AM PDT by rktman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: rktman

and for far too many years, far far too many “conservatives” have gone along hook line and sinker with all the “raise teacher pay” scams...not realizing that probably 20 years ago, we crossed the rubicon into over pay under perform.


2 posted on 09/08/2015 9:13:30 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rktman

So I guess that means they need more money, right?


3 posted on 09/08/2015 9:14:05 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rktman

Maybe we should pay students instead.................


6 posted on 09/08/2015 9:16:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rktman

Overpaid teachers tuning out illiterate students

Yep. I know one that just retired. He is 52. I have known some that retire as young as 47.

Nice reward for a subpar performance.


8 posted on 09/08/2015 9:16:53 AM PDT by boycott
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rktman
 photo okarlkids.jpg

Help FR Continue the Conservative Fight!
Your Monthly and Quarterly Donations
Help Keep FR In the Battle!

Sponsoring FReepers are contributing
$10 Each time a New Monthly Donor signs up!
Get more bang for your FR buck!
Click Here To Sign Up Now!


9 posted on 09/08/2015 9:17:35 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rktman

Its amazing to think that there were better education outcomes in decades past.

For example, Dunbar High School in Washington DC was a prominent black high school back in the days when DC had legally segregated schools. Today its just another ghetto school.

At one time, people wanted to live in New York City because of the reputation and quality of the NY public school system.

In rural America, some places had the proverbial one room schoolhouse. Yet students learned to read and write.

And has the state of public education improved since Jimmy Carter created the Department of Education???


17 posted on 09/08/2015 9:30:39 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rktman

Something to consider. According to deToqueville America’s literacy rate was higher BEFORE we had public schools.


20 posted on 09/08/2015 9:35:13 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rktman

In home schooling our 8 kids we discovered that it is much easier to teach a child to read that to teach one to wash the dishes correctly.


25 posted on 09/08/2015 9:41:30 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Of those born of women there is not risen one greater than John The Baptist.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rktman
I've got over 20 years experience teaching in urban public schools. And I've got to tell you, there's a lot wrong with public schools, and with urban public schools in particular.

But for now I'll limit myself to just one item. For most of my career, I've taught physics. Now, as any engineer or physicist will tell you, “torque” is a pretty important topic in physics.

But I'm not permitted to teach torque! Why? It's for the simple reason that torque is not in the detailed syllabus that I must follow. Oh, I teach it anyway. But should a supervisor walk in while I'm doing so, I'd have some serious explaining to do. And I could be fired for repeat “offenses” of this nature.

In a similar vein, we went through a period of years (thankfully over) when we were not allowed to correct a student's mistake until the next day. That was the bright idea of some outside consultant.

So, for example, if a student said "E=mc^3", I was supposed stop teaching and form discussion groups on that topic, but not mention it was E=mc^2 until the next day. That would have been an enormous time-waster, and I never did it. lucky I was never caught.

So yep, public schools are full of problems. But don't underestimate the constant interference good teachers must endure from outside consultants, supervisors who are looking to make a name for themselves, undisciplined students, etc.

(sorry for the long rant)

26 posted on 09/08/2015 9:43:39 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rktman

Recently I sent a gift to a graduating, college-bound high school student.

His mother insisted on thank you notes (a good thing), but they looked as if they were written by a second grader who could not spell (not so good). This boy should be going to trade school, but, no, college material, the family thinks.


32 posted on 09/08/2015 9:53:27 AM PDT by Calpublican (Republican Party Now Stands for Nothing!!!!!(Except Conniving))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rktman
Erebusic? What does that even mean? Turns out the author does obscuration regularly. Or for my older friends, it reads like the Kingfish talked.

Here are some more big Massie words:


35 posted on 09/08/2015 10:00:23 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Voting is acting white.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rktman

The reason the students seem to be illiterate is that the administration will not allow anyone held back even though they are not passing or doing grade level work.You can’t teach a stone !


36 posted on 09/08/2015 10:05:23 AM PDT by Renegade
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rktman

“tuning out” or “turning out”?


38 posted on 09/08/2015 10:07:37 AM PDT by PLMerite ("The issue is never the issue. The issue is the Revolution.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rktman

But are they being socialized? I am told that is the most important thing.


41 posted on 09/08/2015 10:10:28 AM PDT by rey
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rktman

My 14 year old granddaughter, a freshman in high school, called the other night for help with her math. The assignment on the second day of school was to graph inequalities in one and two variables.

My gd is smart so I asked her if she forgot the rules for inequalities that shhe learned in class. She said the teacher did not teach that day, she just broke the class into groups and told them to figure it out collectively. Seriously.

So I taught her inequalities and wrote a note on the one problem that was so incoherent Einstein could not have solved it indicating just that to the “ teacher”.


44 posted on 09/08/2015 10:20:19 AM PDT by jwalsh07
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rktman
who cannot make change unless the cash register tells them the correct amount

I worked at a Hallmark store some years ago. Some young girl was trying to pay for something with change; and, honestly, she didn't seem to know the difference between the actual coins. When I put together the coins that would add up to the cost of the item, she just looked totally blank, as if she could not figure out how I did that.

I remember having sheets of paper printed with the coins and their denominations, when I was in grade school (just turned 61), to help teach us what coins are worth how much and how to put them together to get certain amounts.

Do the public schools no longer even do such basic preparation for living in the world?

46 posted on 09/08/2015 10:32:01 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: rktman
"If more money were the cure to the educational malaise, public schools would be graduating entire classes of Einsteins and Socrateses."

Fill the classroom with Einsteins and money won't be a factor. But what if the classroom is filed with kids that can't compute? That's the problem educators have when the public expects Einsteins.

60 posted on 09/08/2015 11:23:40 AM PDT by ex-snook (To conquer use Jesus, not bombs.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson