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Overpaid teachers tuning out illiterate students
wnd.com ^ | 9/8/2015 | Mychal Massie

Posted on 09/08/2015 9:12:04 AM PDT by rktman

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To: rktman

Something else to consider, according to deT the average man of the day was not only interested but well versed in the issues of the day. We FReepers remember the videos of questions asked of 0bama voters.


21 posted on 09/08/2015 9:38:17 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: TBP

There are big differences is how much teachers are paid depending in which state that work in.

As for merit pay, the idea is insane. The quality of the students is a major factor in how well they perform. With merit pay you’d be paying teachers who work in the ghetto peanuts while paying teachers who work in rich areas a relative fortune. Does that make sense to you?


22 posted on 09/08/2015 9:39:34 AM PDT by Ultima
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To: Dilbert San Diego

No doubt. If you can find it, somewhere someone posted a test for 8th graders(?) from back in the 1920’s or near that time frame. Hell, I had a hard time with it. LOL! Probably most HS seniors couldn’t pass it today. Sad dang state of affairs.


23 posted on 09/08/2015 9:40:13 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: boycott
Yep about 50K for a Tunisian lady who advocates for Palestine in her free time. She is currently employed at Houston ISD's Arabic Immersion Magnet School.
24 posted on 09/08/2015 9:41:18 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: rktman

In home schooling our 8 kids we discovered that it is much easier to teach a child to read that to teach one to wash the dishes correctly.


25 posted on 09/08/2015 9:41:30 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Of those born of women there is not risen one greater than John The Baptist.)
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To: rktman
I've got over 20 years experience teaching in urban public schools. And I've got to tell you, there's a lot wrong with public schools, and with urban public schools in particular.

But for now I'll limit myself to just one item. For most of my career, I've taught physics. Now, as any engineer or physicist will tell you, “torque” is a pretty important topic in physics.

But I'm not permitted to teach torque! Why? It's for the simple reason that torque is not in the detailed syllabus that I must follow. Oh, I teach it anyway. But should a supervisor walk in while I'm doing so, I'd have some serious explaining to do. And I could be fired for repeat “offenses” of this nature.

In a similar vein, we went through a period of years (thankfully over) when we were not allowed to correct a student's mistake until the next day. That was the bright idea of some outside consultant.

So, for example, if a student said "E=mc^3", I was supposed stop teaching and form discussion groups on that topic, but not mention it was E=mc^2 until the next day. That would have been an enormous time-waster, and I never did it. lucky I was never caught.

So yep, public schools are full of problems. But don't underestimate the constant interference good teachers must endure from outside consultants, supervisors who are looking to make a name for themselves, undisciplined students, etc.

(sorry for the long rant)

26 posted on 09/08/2015 9:43:39 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: magna carta

That makes me want to throw up. It really does.


27 posted on 09/08/2015 9:46:55 AM PDT by boycott
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To: DungeonMaster

That’s funny. And absolutely true.


28 posted on 09/08/2015 9:47:50 AM PDT by cyclotic
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To: C. Edmund Wright

It is not the teacher’s pay that is too high in most areas. It is the bloated bureaucracy that has grown like an overfed tick and sucks all the money from the school budget.


29 posted on 09/08/2015 9:52:48 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (There's a right to gay marriage in the Constitution but there is no right of an unborn baby to life.)
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To: boycott

I hear ya. Am getting the payments made from HISD so I can fully examine each staff member employed at that school. I am pelting this idiot runaway school board on Twitter every day as hard as I can. We already protested.


30 posted on 09/08/2015 9:52:48 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: Leaning Right

Not a problem.(ahem!) I know there are still excellent teachers out there but it sure seems like they are few and far between and that may just be media induced thinking. During my career, the company often contracted outside ‘consultants’ for all sorts of things. Usually the results were less than stellar. Wonder just how much the ‘consultants’ that were hired to service us in the wonderful world of diversity toted off to the bank. A bunch I’ll bet.


31 posted on 09/08/2015 9:53:19 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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Recently I sent a gift to a graduating, college-bound high school student.

His mother insisted on thank you notes (a good thing), but they looked as if they were written by a second grader who could not spell (not so good). This boy should be going to trade school, but, no, college material, the family thinks.


32 posted on 09/08/2015 9:53:27 AM PDT by Calpublican (Republican Party Now Stands for Nothing!!!!!(Except Conniving))
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It’s both. I’ve no argument with you on the bureaucracy, in all of government, not just education...but the law of supply and demand proves that they are over paid, or at least, not underpaid.


33 posted on 09/08/2015 9:54:00 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: magna carta

Good deal. Thank you for doing what you’re doing. People would never know of such situations without people like you making a stand. Again, thank you.


34 posted on 09/08/2015 9:57:04 AM PDT by boycott
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To: rktman
Erebusic? What does that even mean? Turns out the author does obscuration regularly. Or for my older friends, it reads like the Kingfish talked.

Here are some more big Massie words:


35 posted on 09/08/2015 10:00:23 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Voting is acting white.)
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To: rktman

The reason the students seem to be illiterate is that the administration will not allow anyone held back even though they are not passing or doing grade level work.You can’t teach a stone !


36 posted on 09/08/2015 10:05:23 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: Calpublican

Actually, trade school and a solid work ethic will put a student light years ahead of today’s average college graduate.


37 posted on 09/08/2015 10:06:03 AM PDT by LouAvul (Liberalism, the bane of civilization.)
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To: rktman

“tuning out” or “turning out”?


38 posted on 09/08/2015 10:07:37 AM PDT by PLMerite ("The issue is never the issue. The issue is the Revolution.")
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To: TBP

Merit pay is a fallacy. Teachers who kiss the administrations azz get the best kids who perform well. The teachers that are actually the best get the worst learning students along with the behavior problems. These students could not and really don’t care about so the teacher gets blamed.


39 posted on 09/08/2015 10:08:35 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: Calpublican

I am an adjunct professor at a local community college where I teach American history and culture and constitutional history. I read a report recently that said most American college freshman read and write at a 7th grade level. From what I have seen in my 7 years this is very true, and only if the 7th grade level is a mess. It’s like high school doesn’t exist at all except for social functions for most American kids.


40 posted on 09/08/2015 10:09:58 AM PDT by Crapgame (What should be taught in our schools? American Exceptionalism, not cultural Marxism...)
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