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Lawmakers to Report Speaker to Ethics Council Over Trump Stunt
Jakarta Globe ^ | September 7, 2015 | Markus Junianto Sihaloho

Posted on 09/07/2015 11:21:18 PM PDT by make no mistake

Jakarta. Several members of Indonesia's House of Representives say they will report the speaker and a deputy speaker to the House's Ethics Council over a controversial appearance the two made at a campaign event for US billionaire Donald Trump.

House Speaker Setya Novanto and Fadli Zon, one of his deputies, appeared at a press conference in New York last week held by Trump, who wants to run for president of the United States.

Charles Honoris, a member of Commission I, which deals with foreign affairs among other issues, said he and several colleagues would formally report the House leaders on Monday afternoon.

The other lawmakers looking to make their displeasure known are Rieke Diah Pitaloka, Adian Napitupulu and Budiman Sudjatmiko, all from the Indonesian Democratic Party of Struggle (PDI-P), Maman Imanulhaq from the National Awakening Party (PKB) and Akbar Faizal from the National Democratic (NasDem) Party, Charles said, adding that others may join.

Setya is a member of the Golkar Party while Fadli is with the Great Indonesia Movement (Gerindra) Party, which are both in the coalition of parties opposing the group backing President Joko Widodo, which is led by the PDI-P and includes the PKB, NasDem and also the People's Conscience (Hanura) Party.

As the controversy over the lawmakers' US trip grows at home, Fadli has threatened to sue the prominent Indonesian imam of a New York City mosque after the latter accused him and Setya of showcasing inappropriate support for Trump.

“We were not showing support or anything as such. It's not like we have a right to vote or hold any sway in the US presidential [election],” Fadli said in a press statement on Saturday, according to Indonesian news portal metrotvnews.com. “Donald Trump hasn't even [officially] nominated himself. He is only trying to win the support of the Republicans.”

Besides the politicized nature of the US visit due to the Trump connection, the estimated cost of the trip and even a presumably pricy watch worn by Setya have made headlines in Indonesia


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: indonesia; jakarta; trump

1 posted on 09/07/2015 11:21:19 PM PDT by make no mistake
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To: make no mistake

Poor dudes, looks like the Global Establishment are at it going against Trump.


2 posted on 09/07/2015 11:24:24 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: make no mistake

“As the controversy over the lawmakers’ US trip grows at home, Fadli has threatened to sue the prominent Indonesian imam of a New York City mosque after the latter accused him and Setya of showcasing inappropriate support for Trump.”

Controversy in Jakarta concerning support for Trump?


3 posted on 09/07/2015 11:24:50 PM PDT by make no mistake
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To: Patriot Babe

Hmm ... sounds like a tell-it-like-it-is American presidential candidate is upsetting more than domestic applecarts!


4 posted on 09/07/2015 11:28:42 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: Patriot Babe

LOL, someone got a pricy watch that made headlines.

“Besides the politicized nature of the US visit due to the Trump connection, the estimated cost of the trip and even a presumably pricy watch worn by Setya have made headlines in Indonesia”


5 posted on 09/07/2015 11:31:48 PM PDT by make no mistake
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To: make no mistake
Sounds like the commies are pissed. I'm starting to like this Trump guy. LOL!

Wasn't Obama from Indonesia before he was from Kenya in college before he was from Hawaii before he was from Chicago?

6 posted on 09/07/2015 11:33:30 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Cecil the Lion says, Stop the Slaughter of the Baby Humans!!!)
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To: make no mistake

Hey Rieke Diah Pitaloka, Adian Napitupulu and Budiwoman Sudjatmiko, STFU! You and the rest of your IINO (Indonesians in name only) crowd need to shut your mouths!!

Just kidding. I don’t know anything about Indonesian politics. It would be interesting to find the back story to this.


7 posted on 09/07/2015 11:41:57 PM PDT by mbrfl (fightingmad)
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To: make no mistake

Yes, but how is Trump polling in Jakarta. LOL


8 posted on 09/07/2015 11:42:40 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: FlingWingFlyer

No, I think Obama was from Kenya before he was from Indonesia then Hawaii. :)


9 posted on 09/07/2015 11:46:47 PM PDT by make no mistake
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To: make no mistake

I believe you’re right. Thank you. ;o)


10 posted on 09/07/2015 11:49:27 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Cecil the Lion says, Stop the Slaughter of the Baby Humans!!!)
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To: JennysCool

Exactly, I bet the global establishment are praying that Trump does not win.


11 posted on 09/07/2015 11:49:39 PM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: make no mistake

The following article was published on Sept. 18,2008, in a blog called An American Expat in Southeast Asia.

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In an article entitled “A Forgotten Cause”, Peter Tatchell sheds light on the plight of the West Papuans, many of whom are Christians and have suffered under Indonesia’s brutal policy of ethnic and religious persecution. The untold story though is how the Obama campaign would sell out the West Papuans in a desperate attempt to protect Obama’s presidential bid.

On the 3rd of July 2007, U.S. Congressman Eni Faleomavaega would touch down in Jakarta, Indonesia. A staunch outspoken critic of Jakarta’s rule over West Papua, New Guinea and a crusader for West Papua’s right to self-determination, the chairman of the House Subcommittee on Asia, The Pacific and the Global Enviroment, Faleomavaega promised to be a force to be reckoned with.

Having been barred from visiting Papau by the Indonesian government, Faleomavaega would instead settle for a private meeting in Jakarta with Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono and Barnabas Suebu the governor for the Indonesian province of Papau. The Papuan issue though wasn’t the only thing on Faleomavaega’s mind, being one of Barack Obama’s most devoted disciples, Faleomavaega would be seeking the Indonesian government’s assistance in supporting Barack Obama’s presidential campaign as well as making the requisite pilgrimage to Barack Obama’s childhood school.

According to our Indonesian sources, “officials” who accompanied Faleomavaega were interested in acquiring any and all documentation or photographs of a young Barry Soetoro for America’s “national archives” and they were offering cash, lots of it. In a show of faith, Barack Obama’s childhood school would be one of the very first beneficiaries of this outpouring receiving thousands of dollars to upgrade the school and for the purchase of computer equipment, thanks in part to the benevolence of this visiting junket.

The challenge of course was securing Indonesian goverment records potentially damaging to Barack Obama’s candidacy for the US presidency as well as other records pertaining to a young Barry Soetoro and his family wouldn’t be so easy to acquire and secure, and for this, the visitors would need the assistance and cooperation of the Indonesian government.

It’s not that getting Indonesian government help is difficult, it’s not. It’s no secret that Indonesia is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet, but we’re not talking about the challenge of dealing with corrupt government officials here, but rather, dealing with the “true believers of change”. Convincing the Indonesian government that an Obama presidency will be able to deliver that “change” and that it was in the interest of both countries to see that Barack Obama was elected was nothing more than a fait accompli for Faleomavaega’s entourage.

For West Papau’s governor in attendance, having been pacified at the prospect that an Obama presidency would enable him to make zillions trading carbon credits on the Chicago Climate Exchange, Barnabas Suebu would sit quietly as the fate of West Papau was decided.

The only issue of contention Faleomavaega would face from the Indonesian government would be the issue of West Papau. In the end, it was simply a give and take situation. The Obama campaign needed assistance from the Indonesian government and the Indonesian government wanted a free hand in Papau.

Later concerning Faleomavaega’s meeting, Indonesian presidential spokesman Dino Patti Djalal would have this to say: “One thing that is sure is that Faleomevaega’s visit here has changed his views about Indonesia. It has made him realize this country is so vast and complex it cannot be reduced by the Papua issue...” Dino said Faleomavaega was known as a US Congress member who often commented on the Papuan issue but now he had changed his views. “He now sees that Papua is inalienable part of the Unitary State of the Republic of Indonesia.”

Faleomevaega’s and meeting with Indonesia’s president regarding West Papau and his subsequent flipflop on supporting West Papau’s right to self-determination is something that you might think would warrant at least a press release on the congressman’s website, but there is nothing, nor is there any mention on the House Subcommittee’s site. No press release, nothing, not even a mere mention of his trip to Indonesia.

In the end, everyone got what they wanted, all to the detriment of the West Papuans.

The is no denying the fact that the prospects of an Obama presidency has emboldened the Indonesian government’s brutal repression in Papau. In an earlier article, we would explain in detail how an Obama presidency would stoke ethnic and religious chauvinism in Indonesia and how Indonesia’s Islamic fundamentalists will use an Obama presidency to radicalize a new contingent of militants from the ranks of Islam’s moderates. Individuals who are mesmerized by the phantasmagorical image of one of their own now inhabiting the White House and who will see it as a sign of America’s impending submission and our nation’s acquiescence to the superiority of Islam. Tee-shirts blazoned with messianic images of Barack Hussein Obama are already starting to replace the Osama Bin Laden tee-shirts that have been so popular in Indonesia. In Indonesia Barack Obama is fast becoming the “Che Guevara” of Indonesia’s young wannabe Islamists.

The Indonesian government is not only failing to protect the West Papuans from the violence of militant Islam, the government is actively stoking the fires of ethnic and religious chauvinism and supporting intimidation againstWest Papuans with many in recent days taking to the streets protesting the introduction of Islamic law.

For Indonesia’s national news agency to refer to the US government as the “George Bush administration” highlights the dichotomy of opposing foreign policy positions that are being both presented and exploited by the left. That Indonesia would feel it was safe to renew their campaign of brutal repression in Papau, in the last few months of the current administration, the diplomatic sabotage conducted by the Obama campaign is partially if not wholly responsible.

- See more at: http://laotze.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-throwing-papau-under-bus.html#sthash.0E6HEcKn.dpuf


12 posted on 09/08/2015 12:09:28 AM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF TWO USA CITIZENS)
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To: make no mistake

You are wrong. He was born in Indonesia in 1957.

The son of SADO was born in Kenya. When SADO married Lolo Soetoro, he adopted her biological son and renamed him Barry Soetoro. Barack/Barry died circa 1973, and the foster child born in 1957, one of six Jakarta street kids that Lolo adopted BEFORE he traveled to Hawaii and met SADO, took the name Barry Soetoro for his cover as he attended Punahou.

The reason his school records - Punahou, Occidental College, Columbia University - are all hidden from the public is because his records will show he was Barry Soetoro, a foreign student from Indonesia.


13 posted on 09/08/2015 12:19:29 AM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF TWO USA CITIZENS)
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...Fadli has threatened to sue the prominent Indonesian imam of a New York City mosque after the latter accused him and Setya of showcasing inappropriate support for Trump.

Islamist Imams against Trump.

He really is making all the right enemies.

14 posted on 09/08/2015 12:21:18 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: SatinDoll

I have never heard that before. I wish the truth be known about Obama. It truly is scary that he is POTUS.


15 posted on 09/08/2015 12:43:47 AM PDT by make no mistake
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Commies? In Indonesia? I don’t think so. On my visa applications, at least until recently, I had to account for my whereabouts in ‘65 when Indonesia threw the commies out.


16 posted on 09/08/2015 3:05:30 AM PDT by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: make no mistake

In a way this is hilarious. The visit to hear Trumps campaign stump speech by these two Indonesian legislators probably had more to do with his previous pronouncements on China. Rather than Trump seeking background info on 0 or Christian symapathies on the West Papaunan question. The contraversey was triggered by some Indonesian Imman based in NYC.

It’s an insight into Indonesian politics which appears can be pretty messy


17 posted on 09/08/2015 3:53:21 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (My best insights get lost in FR's because of meaningless venting no one reads.)
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Obama is still an Indonesian citizen and here on a student visa to attend Occidental College.

He's an illegal alien!

18 posted on 09/08/2015 4:03:00 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: make no mistake

Java has a BIG Amish community and lots of them DON’T like the USA.
I was in Bali just before the terrorist explosion in 2001 and you could see who was who just on the expression on their faces.
Hindu Bali are wonderful.


19 posted on 09/08/2015 10:29:28 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: make no mistake

I would bet the Democrats and/or the Bushes put pressure on them to “trump” up a controversy here...


20 posted on 09/08/2015 10:31:39 AM PDT by DouglasKC (I'm pro-choice when it comes to lion killing....)
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