Posted on 08/31/2015 3:27:19 PM PDT by artichokegrower
The thug cops created the problem but the sad fact of the universe is it will be the good cops who bear the burden of the retaliation.
Then there' this: Innocent bystander, 61, dies after NYPD accidentally shot him in ... attempt to catch a gun dealer
Oh please. The Obama-Holder administration stoked this crap to explode, and it arrives right on time.
You can blame the justice system for bad cops when they occasionally emerge, if and when they get a pass, but the public they deal with 24/7 in this deadly age should deserve at least some mention before you deliver your upside down opinion. Otherwise, you can surely expect to be copless at your residence soon.
This whole crisis will spark a growth of those nasty supremacists and vigilante justice will be back, against these cop killing black promoters.
The right side is justice for all sides, but cop killing is not an option, no matter who says they started it. Incredible.
Why does any cop deserve death?
Many blacks cant learn.
Most of them who were brutalized deserved it.
Oh, I bet he had a budding rap career or something
“My baby diddin do nuffin!” is coming soon
Your statistic means nothing by itself. If you don’t take into account the baserate of “bad” lawyers or doctors then the rate of firing has no value. Doctors require 10 yrs of training, cops can be as little as 180 hrs. Not as many screw-ups last through ten years of training. McDonalds fires a huge number of people, does that mean it has the most competent workforce?
Secondly, the comparison is incongruent anyway. You choose the services of a doctor or lawyer and if you don’t like them you can refuse their service. Try refusing a cops service.
I’m not aware of powerful unions reflexively protecting all doctors, nor if one of them commits a crime do their friends and colleagues handle the investigation.
Just because a lot of cops get fired by internal processes doesn’t mean bad ones aren’t still protected. Similarly, lots of teachers are fired, but after a few years the bad ones tend to get protected.
I would say that it is greater than 80%.
What I have observed is that there are many people who classify themselves as faultless, when in reality, they are far from it.
The kind of people who gather around an incident, and egg people on, then are surprised when things escalate out of control and they find themselves on the ground in a choke-hold. Or get a bullet in the ass.
And they insist they are blameless.
This is in no way stating that injustices and brutality do not happen. They do. And I am certain they happen at a higher rate with people of color.
But I reject that it is primarily racism, and maintain it is more a problem of being in close proximity to areas that have higher amounts of crime and violence.
I reject that utterly. It is not that blacks cannot learn that is a problem. There is plenty of evidence of the falsity of that statement. People like Booker T. Washington, Thomas Sowell, Ben Carson and Alan West are just four examples, and there are millions of others who disprove it as well.
The major problem is that there is a large subset of the black community that is utterly unwilling to learn, as if learning were a betrayal of some kind.
I think THAT is one of the most hideous and malignant cancers in the black community, and they want to blame that on racism, slavery, poverty, and nearly everything else.
But the problem is that personal responsibility is being rejected in a sizable portion of black men, primarily the young.
I reject your assertion that blacks cannot learn.
Because they murdered someone.
Tell me how, the police cleaning out the bad apples is wrong.
He told us of two different cops that stopped him and his wife.
In Kentucky a State Tropper, riding alone, in a very rural area, stopped him for no seat belt, He showed the man the letter from his VA doc saying that he couldn't use a seat belt, the Trooper said "Works for me", never asked for a license, registration or anything and walked away.
In Ohio, a State Trooper, working with a dozen others, stopped them as the entered OH from Indiana for a cracked windshield. While still polite, he wanted proof of everything, even when told that in NM and in Maine, a cracked windshield is not an offense.
His point is that when working alone rural police are helpful and polite, and not very intrusive, but when working with a large group they seem to have a gang mentality.
He went on to say that unless that changed and they acted as if they were alone when working in a group, there would be hell to pay down the road. Seems as if he may have spoken prophetically.
I didn’t say getting rid of bad cops is wrong. I addressed you because you post on Free Republic, and I operate on the assumption that anything you post can be commented on by any other poster.
What I disagree with is using the context of police brutality and an article that implies they had it coming all these years to justify that notion, because that lends credence to the false, corrosive and destructive notion that police brutality is the cause of black criminals killing policemen, because that is what this discussion is about.
The MAIN reasons one subset of the American population are involved with murder of police officers at a higher rate than the population in general are criminal behavior, close proximity to that behavior by a segment of the population, and racism. There is a sizable segment of that population that blames it on racism, and to give that any weight at all is not only wrong, given the current environment, it should be criminally wrong.
That is what I have a problem with.
Non sequitur; you either didn’t understand the argument or do understand it but are unable to logically refute it.
What needs to be done is a rejection of the premise that cops ought to have special rights. If a cop commits a crime, or is a suspect, the cop should be treated e same way a non-cop suspect or criminal would be.
We see people trying to grasp “justice” for themselves because they’ve been burned by a corrupt justice system.
Treating cop criminals and suspects like noncop criminals and suspects would be a good beginning.
What did Baby Bou Bou do to deserve a grenade tossed in his crib?
How about Aiyana Jones? What crime did she commit?
Who is the author?
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