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1 posted on 08/28/2015 12:33:41 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Squawk 8888

Another Toronto HOT Lanes article from last Saturday.


2 posted on 08/28/2015 12:34:12 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Democrats and GOP-e: a difference of degree, not philosophy)
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If it were full privatization, I’m not sure I’d have a problem with it. But it isn’t of course; it’s double taxation.


3 posted on 08/28/2015 12:35:27 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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Horrible situation as it actually forces one to concede that the far-left nutball NDP party is RIGHT on this.

And I thought stuff this corrupt only happened here in Pennsylvania.


6 posted on 08/28/2015 12:39:28 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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In California we have both HOV and HOT.

The HOV are occupied by so many self righteous electric car owners who get their hydrocarbons from a power plant and not a gas station. Not to mention every furniture delivery truck because there are two people in the cab, not to mention infants in car seats as passengers. None of these remove cars from the freeway.

The HOT lanes, however, flow fast and free. There persons freely choose between time and money.


7 posted on 08/28/2015 12:40:32 PM PDT by cicero2k
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You wouldn’t think the public planning process by public agencies for public roads all paid for by the public — could possibly be kept secret from the public —in any country - even communist or islamonazi dictatorships. Way to go, Canada. ( still stuck too close to American bad influence, eh?)


8 posted on 08/28/2015 12:42:50 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (up)
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Canada Ping!

9 posted on 08/28/2015 12:46:22 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I don't run; if you see me running, you should run too.)
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You’re don’t pay a toll just to use a road — you pay a toll to keep other people off the road you want to use.


10 posted on 08/28/2015 1:16:46 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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Depending on how much the toll is, this will help move some traffic from the regular lanes in to the HOV lanes which are currently often nearly empty, at least in comparison to the other 2 or more lanes which are often bumper to bumper and barely moving.

That’s not to say that I don’t think that the HOV lanes were a total waste of time and money to start with - they took away a regular traffic lane, and they cause disruptions in traffic flow as vehicles try to get to and from the HOV lanes (on the left) and the on/off ramps on the right. Also the idiots who dive in and out of these (completely unprotected other than some road markings) lanes in places where it’s not allowed. I’ve seen a number of near accidents where someone drove from the slow-moving left-most normal lane into the HOV lane where someone was coming along at 75 mph. It’s also scary as heck when traffic is moving unimpeded at those sorts of speeds in the HOV lanes while just a few feet away to its right cars are stopped or moving slowly.

It goes without saying, of course, that these HOV lanes were introduced by a Liberal government trying to provide an inducement for car-pooling, which most people aren’t interested in because it’s a pain in the butt. Instead it’s a handy fast lane for those people who have 2 or more in their car, as they would have regardless of whether or not an HOV lane existed. One of my co-workers loves that he can use it with his son in a child seat in the back. Nice for him, at everyone else’s expense.


11 posted on 08/28/2015 2:40:29 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like tractor.)
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