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Ted Cruz Evades Important Question: Would You Deport U.S. Citizens?
Reason.com ^ | August 26,2015 | Matt Welch

Posted on 08/26/2015 10:37:19 AM PDT by Hojczyk

Last night on Donald Trump's least favorite Fox News program, The Kelly File, GOP contender Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) also went after the suddenly controversial interviewer, complaining that a question she kept pressing him on—whether he'd deport the U.S.-citizen children of illegal immigrants, as Donald Trump would—is "the question every mainstream media liberal journalist wants to ask." Sick burn!

Anyway, the question—which Cruz, to his discredit, refused to answer—is an important one for those many 2016 GOP candidates (Trump, Cruz, Scott Walker, Rand Paul, Rick Santorum, Lindsey Graham, Bobby Jindal, etc.) who have come out against the birthright citizenship established by the plain text of the 14th amendment. We get that you wish to change the existing rules somehow (Trump and Ron Paul, to name two people, think you can do so without a constitutional amendment), but what to do about the estimated 4 million American-citizen kids having at least one illegal-immigrant parent? Given the rapid Trumpification of the 2016 nominating process, and Cruz's demonstrated readiness to strip U.S. citizenship in other contexts, the issue of forcibly expelling Americans from their native country—regardless of how appalling—is a live one, demanding clarification.

Here's a detail that rarely gets brought up during nonsense-filled immigration debates: President Barack Obama has been a much bigger deporter-in-chief than George W. Bush. The Department of Homeland Security issued 2 million deportations during Bush's tenure; Obama blew through that number in Year Five of his presidency:

The administration has since made a sharp policy turn, triggering some of the heated debate we've seen over the past year, but there's no guarantee that his late-breaking deportation slowdown would be carried on by the next Democratic president, particularly if it's restrictionist Bernie Sanders.

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1 posted on 08/26/2015 10:37:19 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

He would not answer the question…it was not like Trump in the debate


2 posted on 08/26/2015 10:39:09 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Which assumes that the subjects are US citizens, doesn’t it?


3 posted on 08/26/2015 10:39:13 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Hojczyk

When did Trump say he would deport U.S. citizens? I don’t think he has ever said that.


4 posted on 08/26/2015 10:39:52 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Hojczyk

How many can you expel in a year…????


5 posted on 08/26/2015 10:41:07 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: LachlanMinnesota

Plain language of the 14th Amendment, but only some of the plain language, and excluding some of it to suit one’s notion.

“and subject to the jurisdiction thereof”

If all words are there for a reason, and all words have meaning, what is the meaning of this phrase?

Does the intent of the drafter matter?


6 posted on 08/26/2015 10:42:15 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Hojczyk

He is a lawyer and he knows the answer. You cannot deport a US Citizen. He was just trying not to lose any more ground to Trump.


7 posted on 08/26/2015 10:42:37 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Hojczyk
Anyway, the question—which Cruz, to his discredit, refused to answer—

Yours is not a misinterpretation of what Cruz answered, Matt Welch; your statement is an out and out lie.

Cruz answered Kelly Maygun's question several times in several ways, just not in the yes-or-no way she insisted he give her. Acting Presidential, Cruz did not allow her repeated accusations that he was not answering her question pass without calling attention to the liberal tactics she was using against him.
8 posted on 08/26/2015 10:42:56 AM PDT by Resettozero
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If their parents chose not to take their little anchor baby with them back to their home country, that’s their problem. Which is exactly why birthright citizenship to the offspring of non-citizens is insane and needs to be ended pronto.


9 posted on 08/26/2015 10:42:57 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: LachlanMinnesota
Does the intent of the drafter matter?

Yes.

10 posted on 08/26/2015 10:43:35 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (To defeat the democRATs, we must first defeat the Republicans.)
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To: Hojczyk

We do not need to deport them. If we end the anchor babies, end the free stuff, and make employers not hire people who are here illegally, they will leave on their own. They will quit coming in the first place.

This is a liberal Gotcha question that does not relate to reality.


11 posted on 08/26/2015 10:43:56 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( Megyn made the debate about her petty gripe. She failed miserably. She choked, choked like a dog!)
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I think Cruz is of the opinion that many will self deport if laws are changed, the border is secured, and there is little chance that illegals will get residency permits or citizenship.


12 posted on 08/26/2015 10:44:15 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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...the right to bear arms shall not be infringed. Amazing how they can imagine plain text rights in the 14th, yet somehow mangle the 2nd...


13 posted on 08/26/2015 10:44:52 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Menehune56

If the parent is picked up for the crime of being illegal and sent to a detention center the state is going to need to find foster care for a lot of these kids.


14 posted on 08/26/2015 10:45:39 AM PDT by erlayman
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Ship the parents back to where they came from. Leave it to the parents to decide whether to bring the kids with them, or leave them behind in the custody of the U.S. Government.

The government can sent up camps, where the children can go to school in the morning, and pick lettuce in the afternoon. This will help the children build a strong moral character, learn the value of U.S. Citizenship, and eliminate the need for importing farm workers.

It’s a win-win for everyone!


15 posted on 08/26/2015 10:47:25 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (With Trump & Cruz, America can't lose!)
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I hope the candidates are ready for this question. It’s basically the ‘rape or incest’ version of immigration.

Cruz did not handle it well last night, in my opinion. I watched it live, and she asked him three times, and he was stumbling - trying to say that’s not a real question. Whereas Trump said point blank, ‘Bill we have to do it.’

However, Cruz’s slam against Kelly, calling her biased, did work for him as it changed the narrative and many of today’s headlines. Instead of Cruz being stumped and looking like a typical politician, he made the story about media bias and Megyn Kelly.

I really just think Cruz let his guard down. He went into what he thought was friendly territory and got ambushed. I guarantee he’ll have a better answer next time.


16 posted on 08/26/2015 10:47:47 AM PDT by nhwingut (Trump-Cruz 2016 - Blow Up The GOP)
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Since Kelly is lying in wait to trip up Republican candidates, they should either be prepared or refuse to go on her show. To her question about what he would do with illegal alien parents of two children born here, would he deport the parents and leave the children here, or deport all of them, Cruz should have said, “ Knowing the family values of our culture, the parents would never leave their children here. They would take their children back to the parents’ country of origin and apply to enter the U.S. Legally, so they could pursue the American Dream together.”
Be ready, candidates, or stay away from the Gotcha Gang at the networks.


17 posted on 08/26/2015 10:48:03 AM PDT by txrefugee
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Cruz wouldn’t deport the illegal parents, so he’s certainly not going to deport the US citizen kids.


18 posted on 08/26/2015 10:48:32 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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So, as I understand it, Cruz will not make some empty campaign platitude, but understands that deporting the parents here illegally leaves a sticky constitutional wicket that has yet to be worked out concerning children already granted citizen status. I don’t think careful and restrained should be equated with evasion. However, I do think unthoughtful statements about future policy should be equated with recklessness.


19 posted on 08/26/2015 10:49:12 AM PDT by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: erlayman

Child abandonment, not taking their child with them as they are deported, should be grounds for never receiving citizenship in the future.

That will help prevent some of the cases.


20 posted on 08/26/2015 10:49:20 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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