Posted on 08/24/2015 4:27:56 AM PDT by markomalley
And the pundits wonder why Trump is so popular ...
Our colleges should stop socializing their students like children and start training them like adults so they’re actually prepared for the workplace.
Quicken founder Dan Gilbert is a pretty liberal guy but even he has complained that he gets all kinds of new employees with great degrees who have no actual knowledge or interest in doing the job. Gilbert is the kind of guy who puts a game room and basketball court in his offices yet still has employees who take off for 3 or 4 days to go to comic con without notice.
Take it from me, a white Christian American male with 20+ years of IT experience, if you want to make it in American IT, you have to bring a marketable skill to the table. Having a BS in Computer Science doesn’t get you in the door, because you’re a commodity (a programmer) whose salary can buy 2-4 Indians to do the same job around the clock.
I have a BS in English, a Masters certification in professional writing, and several industry certifications. If you think a degree in a STEM field will be a guarantee, you’re sorely mistaken.
Sadly, the American media isn’t discussing this honestly, and most kids in school now are going to be shocked to learn they won’t find work out of college unless they want to prostrate themselves on the altar of retail sales or customer service. Further, they’ll bitch to their friends and coworkers, and it’ll be the “Evil American businessmen” who are at fault; nevermind the fact that the American government is laughing all the way to the bank.
Ping.
The “H-1B 65,000 Quota” number is everywhere, but that is completely misleading.
That's the yearly quota.
But the H-1B is automatically renewable for six years!
And, there is an additional 20,000 annual quota for PhD STEMs.
And, there is no H-1B quota at all for universities, government agencies, and nonprofit laboratories.
The lowest total estimate for H-1Bs currently working in the USA is 550,000.
The lowest total estimate for OPT “students” currently working in the USA is more than 100,000 - and that number, which has no quota, is now rising at 30% per year.
Just as important as the raw numbers is the quality of these foreign workers.
They are NOT elite scientists and engineers.
They are completely “average” scientists and engineers who compete directly against “average” American scientists and engineers.
My advice to 18 year old Americans just starting college: unless you have elite skills, do not even THINK about majoring in science and engineering.
Major in business management, or finance, or an area where your English language skills, interpersonal skills, and cultural knowledge of America give you a clear advantage over the foreign imports.
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This 2007 video shows the conspiracy that contributed to the mass unemployment of millions falling out of the workforce.
Forbes on Fox and Cavuto show kept repeating: “talent shortage” in America....got to bring in outside help. American should be offended.
Fixed.
We just offered an Civil Engineering intern a full time job upon graduation at 56k. Looks like i got a bargain.
Why do you hate Capitalism? /s
Even the STEM graduates from colleges across the nation can’t compete with the skills of many foreign college students. I studied computer science, then computer engineering, then electrical engineering before finally settling into English Comp, and I can tell you that most American students struggled in collegiate math and Engineering courses. Our children are not being taught higher level maths in high school which puts them at a significant disadvantage in college.
There was an article recently that showed the number of students in remedial college math courses has skyrocketed over the last 20 years. Students are not graduating from high school with an understanding of math and science the way that Indian and Chinese students are.
I often found myself struggling with high-level calculus questions while Indian and Chinese group members were blazing through the calculations, oftentimes in their heads. I’m more advanced than most with my understanding of math, but you put me up against a Chinese or Indian kid out of a middle-tier grade, they’ll blow my doors off.
People wonder why STEM college participation is way down. This is it. Since about 1994 kids have seen their parents get “displaced” by foreign workers. The UAW wouldn’t put up with this!
“Even the STEM graduates from colleges across the nation can’t compete with the skills of many foreign college students.”
That’s a load of bullsh*t.
It is well known that the vast majority of foreign IT workers do a terrible job and many of us have made careers out of going in behind them and cleaning up.
I have a friend who’s in the STEM business, and who sits in on the hiring interviews. He says there are one of two things that he nearly always finds: (1) the English is so bad that the knowledge is not useful. It can’t be communicated in technical builds. (2) the knowledge is subpar, because so many foreigners live in countries in which certain classes of people are guaranteed passage due to connections, transfer of payments, or caste.
Despite reported differences in the STEM knowledge of our own people, there is a real concern that we are testing ALL of our students while they are testing only those who qualify for academic tracks in their economies. Not everyone continues in school in many other countries and are out in the work force as young as mid teens. If we are test A-F students, and they are testing only A-C students, then you can see there would be a great discrepancy.
IT workers, yes. I’m talking about actual engineers. I’m talking about people who need to understand discrete mathematics to properly configure redundant WAN paths. I’m talking about mathematicians devising new algorithms for secure communications. I’m talking about scientists studying neutron physics.
I’m NOT talking about help center representatives, user administrators, remote desktop technicians, server administrators, or programmers. Trust me, I know what you say is very true. I’ve been cleaning up after them for 15 years.
Agree on the English. We actually have to approve admins they hire in India based on a telephone conversation about basic administrative tasks. If we can’t understand them, they don’t get hired. That’s pretty sad, if you ask me.
This is also a problem with “leadership.” Even our managers tell us, “Just hire an offshore resource, burn through them, and you can discard them after 3 months.” This is unfortunately the mentality today.
I am talking about ANY engineer. ANY.
The USA builds things no other nation does. Classified projects that are decades ahead of any other nation, all built 100% by AMERICAN engineers. Did you think about that?? Of course, not. It is so much fun to bash Americans because everyone else does it, and so it must also be true.
I often found myself struggling with high-level calculus questions while Indian and Chinese group members were blazing through the calculations, oftentimes in their heads. I’m more advanced than most with my understanding of math, but you put me up against a Chinese or Indian kid out of a middle-tier grade, they’ll blow my doors off.
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They are excellent at memory skills, but terrible at improvising. They make good robots or slaves, which is what poorly managed companies love.
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