Posted on 08/21/2015 8:26:48 PM PDT by T-Bird45
Yeah, I’m pretty sure the current admin is working to change that.
While this might be an individual moment of personal achievement for the two females in question, is it a step in the right direction if we want to kick ass, kill bad guys and take names? Now that the barrier has been crossed, and with no small mount of intense scrutiny and some pressure, will the bar remain unchanged, or will it be lowered so that some from the next batch can make it when the spotlight is off?
Maybe this experiment of an inclusive, gender neutral, homosexual friendly, transgender welcoming military will work out just fine. Maybe not. But is the experiment being undertaken because it seems like the best way to crush a future enemy, or so the President can go to a graduation and announce how great it is that such a progressive milestone has been crossed under his watch?
When the nation is engaged in a war that we might lose, and the casualties are taken at more than the level that we’ve become accustomed to in recent conflicts, we’ll get a real answer.
All of what you say makes perfect sense to me. I have heard other vets state similar cases. It doesn’t take a degree in anthropology to understand the dynamics of this situation and why it would be especially bad news in combat.
This all sounds nice and dandy, but what we want to know is were these items as heavy as what the men were having to carry. Other sections mention 85lbs and 100lbs, were these items as heavy as that?
The time is coming when we will need all the bodies we can muster. Period.
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Bulls-eye! That is the central issue.
That said, in a volunteer force, when one joins up, it will rightly be assumed that one supports and wants to promote the values and missions set forth by leadership, both military and civilian. Otherwise, it would appear to be "just a job."
Yeah, and would you have the guts to tell him that to his face? I think not. Easy to spew crap from behind a keyboard, isn’t it.
Woman collectively are not the physical equals of men. However, some women, individually, come damn close. These 2 clearly do.
As long as they can pass the standard, and the standard is NOT adjusted, I don’t have a problem with it. If they can do the job, let them.
It read to me like a politically written piece.
I give no apology for my opinion.
A young officer who has gauged the political winds and decided that career advancement prospects are enhanced when a think-piece he writes is in tune with what the puzzle palace leaders want to promote?
Nahhh, it could never happen.
Maybe the guy is a straight shooter and is calling it as he sees it. It’s entirely possible that his perception of what’s going on is entirely in tune with what’s being pushed, and what’s being pushed is a good thing.
My guess is that if a serving officer penned a screed arguing against the current trend of “breaking down barriers”, he wouldn’t be doing his career any good.
I don’t think he meant it as a compliment.
That is exactly right.
A vast majority of the military is simply an affirmative action PC, PR campaign anymore. God forbid we have to fight a well equipped army at some point. Could you imagine China with a three hundred ship navy?
I know China imagines it. How inclusive will their army be with 45 million more men than women in their country?
Could have been written by any number of Freepers actually
No shortage here who agree with women in combat etc
Unfortunately a high casualty war my boys will likely have to fight is the only reset that will fix us
Might even be domestic God help us
Never in history that I know of baring the military annihilation of one culture over another has this much historical precedence been deemed immoral or wrong or oppressive or unjust or unfair and simply turned on its head and the military is the favorite and easiest place for those forcing this to make it happen since it’s their rather rather large employment base
Foisted by those who despise military power and the projection of it
They are being allowed to weaken our military for their own votes and redress and satisfaction
It’s the definition of insanity to continue doing something you already know doesn’t work
You can see though that our youth are dead to logic and mostly buy the bullshit probably out of fear
It is not.
A person who went through Ranger school has gone through a great (and hard) program that pushes them to the limit and hones leadership under combat conditions.
An Army Ranger, on the other hand, serves in the 75th and is part of the most elite light infantry in the world, is part of America's special.operations forces, and will be involved in spec-ops operations and even work with other special operations units (eg supporting Delta Force).
Huge difference between the Ranger Tab and the Ranger Scroll. Both are hard to get, but one is combat leadership and the other is special operations.
Not to mention their frigging minds
What the hell is wrong with Freepers
Bullseye my ass
WWII was a meat grinder
War between the States even worse proportionately ....my home state of Mississippi in post war years largest single budget item was prosthetics
Yet they didn’t field chicks in combat
No one ever has short of dire survival and even then relegated to common sense roles knowing the weren’t up to the same rigor and often had subtle talents that were useful especially as informants and couriers
We are doing all this bullshit not to improve our fighting capability but rather to pay the debts the progressives and some GOPe owe to feminists and. LBGT supporters and to make CIB and other punched tickets more available to career ambitious wimmin
It is pure dee crap
Even if one in one thousand women is physically competent as compared to exponentially more men ....that is beside the point
Prolonged violent harsh environments are brutal women and children much more so than on men which is bad a damned nuff
We’ve lost our minds and I have never in my life known one vet who did serious combat exposure who thinks women should be anywhere near it
You put your womenfolk voluntarily into war....I just can’t get over this notion
We fight wars to keep them and the kids out of trouble...not voluntarily place them in it
Video warriors think myths and lore are real or they have just lost their balls
Hell my 15 year old boy is one tuff mofo.....hell he shoulda been at Fallujah...I mean I think he coulda passed MCRD PI
Why not put women in high security US penitentiaries like Lompoc or Terre Haute or Marion
Hell I’m sure some are tough enough....right?
Why discriminate?
Any culture stays on this path ain’t worth preserving.
I spent a lot of time in third world shit seeing bad conflict crap as a young man...dead kids...brutalized women
Even in west Africa it was rare to see women in guerrilla groups....a few...ditto FARC or ELN or the Contras or the Karins
Even desperate rebels had common sense...some used women but limited and in roles suited for them
Crazy
Harpseal RIP
Matt Bracken....hurry back
There are plenty of weak, mush-minded Freepers who accept the PC line and feel all warm and fuzzy when they can jump on the PC bandwagon, reality be damned. The term “cuckservative” that’s been floating around lately applies to these people.
I had the pleasure of opforing at Camp Darby in the late sixties and TDY at Benning. It was actually a lot fun. Playing LRP’s against the ranger students was the best time I had the Army. From what I saw the worst part of Ranger training was the lack of sleep and the constant pushups. The physical may not have been easy but it paled in comparison with the sleep deprivation. Trust me. it ain’t easy to stay awake day after day 20 -21 hours. We did it in leadership prep school and I actually fell fast asleep whilst taking notes in class. If the women can do it then go for it. Just don’t cheapen the standards. People fail the course, not because of physical prowess, but because the motivation isn’t high enough to overcome the physical challenge. The mental challenge is listening to the RI’s screaming in your ear. At least it was in 1967. Let’s face it. Officers go to Ranger school to stamp a ticket. Little chance of the bird and no chance of a star without it. I’m uneasy with women in combat in the average unit but a highly motivated unit like a ranger platoon should do just fine. I am of the old school thought and “feel” that women should not be in combat unless the need os dire. You believe what you want.
They need to read Colonel Allen West.....Colonel Oliver North....Etc on this notion
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