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POLL: GOP RISES, CLINTON COLLAPSES IN CRUCIAL SWING STATES [Fla: Losing to Jeb, Rubio, Trump]
Brietbart ^ | 8/20/15 | John Nolte

Posted on 08/20/2015 6:00:24 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

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To: Biggirl
Slowly both the Dems and the GOPe are coming to terms with the NEW reality: That the Trump could DO IT,

Much to my husband's chagrin. He swore Trump would never make it that far and if he had a choice, Trump would NOT have made it this far. He thinks Trumps a blowhard and is going to say something that would cost the Republican's the election and put Hillary in the WH. But so far Trump has been bullet-proof despite his blunders and Hillary is looking pretty bad.... I doubt she'll make it but I doubted Trump would either so we'll have to wait and see.

21 posted on 08/20/2015 6:59:00 AM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: ozarkgirl

I do not believe that Hillary will be the front runner, thanks to “server gate.” She is pretty much is TOAST.


22 posted on 08/20/2015 7:03:29 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: SoFloFreeper

There’s something off about those numbers.

First, there’s no way that PA is going to be in play.

Second if FL and OH are in play you’d see the trending there reflected in the national numbers. If PA actually was in play you’d definitely see the same trending nationally.

Now there might be a lag between the two (since Trump is clawing his way up nationally), but these are some really big numbers in terms of difference. Bush almost at the crucidl 50% mark in FL with Hillary 11 points behind.


23 posted on 08/20/2015 7:05:09 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: SoFloFreeper

Trump reflects a growing anger among Americans.


24 posted on 08/20/2015 7:05:11 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: ozarkgirl

See post #24.

Enough people out there are now pissed off enough at both politicians and the press that they just don’t buy that verbal gaffes, or petty scandals (as defined by the media) matter.

Thats why Trump is bulletproof. Lots of people actually LIKE that he’s completely upending the game and sending politicians, talking heads, reporter and activists into apoplectic fits with his style.


25 posted on 08/20/2015 7:11:22 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Zathras

Nope. They would, if they had to, prop up Jeb. But they TRULY hate Republicans.....even a “moderate” like Jeb.

The Florida media did their best to boost Charlie Crist after Crist turned Democrat.

For 2016 the Florida media would do their BEST to put whoever the Democrat nominee is.....not a scintilla of objective journalism. Most of the reporters in Miami want to be in LA or New York.


26 posted on 08/20/2015 7:19:53 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: tanknetter

I tend to agree with you. My support is for Walker if the primary was today.

But on the other hand, I really don’t recall anything like the Trump phenom....but it is still early.

My ultimate position is that this nation is hurtling—not slouching—toward Gomorrah. A spiritual awakening is needed in a very big way, and NO single person is going to truly help without that as a reality.


27 posted on 08/20/2015 7:27:14 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

The Republican nominee, whoever it turns out to be, should flood America with this picture during the campaign (assuming The Beast gets the dem nomination).

28 posted on 08/20/2015 7:30:04 AM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/Cruz)
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To: SamAdams76
The mainstream media almost got away with “Palinizing” Trump but Trump outflanked them with social media and brilliantly finding ways to steal the headlines from his fellow candidates.

Of all the issues that any Republican faces, the number one issue -- by a Country Mile -- is Media Bias.

McCain was suckered by it. They pretended to love him, then crushed him like a bug.

Romney was swept away by it, and never uttered as much as a peep of protest.

Gingrich understood it but for some reason folded in Florida before he could make good use of his understanding.

95% of all Republicans are either to scared or too stupid to even try to deal with it.

But Trump... Trump is the judo master who takes the media punch and flips them onto their backs on the floor.

29 posted on 08/20/2015 7:33:51 AM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/Cruz)
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To: SoFloFreeper
I would think that since everyone knows the server was “wiped” there would be a reporter with enough intelligence to ask her who gave the order to “wipe” the server clean and what is the name of the person that carried out the order.
30 posted on 08/20/2015 7:36:29 AM PDT by dearolddad (/i>)
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Gingrich understood it but for some reason folded in Florida before he could make good use of his understanding.


I worked the Gingrich 2012 Florida campaign.

Newt Gingrich had just shocked the GOPe by winning the South Carolina primary.

Two factors contributed to Newt's Florida defeat:

1) Mark Steyn (in the middle of the Florida primary) spent almost a week (subbing for Rush) mocking and smearing Newt's platform like a damned Democrat.

I will never forgive Mark Steyn for that. He can go to hell.


2) Mitt Romney spend about $ 12 million on attack ads against Newt, who probably only spent $ 1 million (max).


The combination Steyn-Rommney blitz against Newt Gingrich was a game changer ...

and much to Mark Steyn's delight, Romney won Florida, and then coasted towards the nomination.



Again, Mark Steyn can "go to hell" ...



31 posted on 08/20/2015 7:42:25 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Patton@Bastogne

I guess Mark Steyn was in with the National Review crowd who fell for the myth of Romney’s electability.


32 posted on 08/20/2015 7:50:04 AM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/Cruz)
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Republicans playing nice with the media never, ever works. George W. Bush was another big victim of them. Always the gentleman when dealing with them, but they utterly destroyed his legacy and made him a national laughingstock. Even today "Bush's Fault" is a running joke. This is what happens when you don't fight back.

To those here who think Trump is being un-presidential or unprofessional in his tactics, they should bear this in mind.

33 posted on 08/20/2015 7:52:08 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (We gave GOP the majority to take care of business and they let us down. Time for Trump/Cruz)
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To: SoFloFreeper

True.

I’m not convinced that Trump will either get the nomination or is even the best candidate for the job. Yet.

But Trump IS changing the game (see the other thread) to something thats much more favorable to us.

I look at it this way: imagine a school thats dominated by a bully. New kid shows up, the bully sees a fresh target but it’s the bully that gets the cr*p kicked out of him and stuffed in a locker. At the hands of the new kid.

Changes the whole dynamics of the school.

Thats what Trump is doing right now. People are fed up with the bullying of the SJWs and Trump is the new kid who’s standing up to them and putting them in their place.

And Trump’s example is going to encourage others to do the same. So while as you say no one man can do it alone, one man CAN set a leadership example for others to follow.


34 posted on 08/20/2015 7:55:59 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: SamAdams76
Republicans playing nice with the media never, ever works. George W. Bush was another big victim of them. Always the gentleman when dealing with them, but they utterly destroyed his legacy and made him a national laughingstock. Even today "Bush's Fault" is a running joke. This is what happens when you don't fight back. To those here who think Trump is being un-presidential or unprofessional in his tactics, they should bear this in mind.

I agree.

35 posted on 08/20/2015 8:02:52 AM PDT by samtheman (2014: Voters elect Repubs to congress... 2015: Repubs defund NOTHING... 2016: Trump/Cruz)
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To: samtheman

Mark Steyn is an analomy ... kinda like Ann Coulter ...

some days he’s great ... and the next day absolutely wretched ...

He set-out to scuttle Newt Gingrich’s Florida primary success in 2012 ...

Mitt was very pleased ...

and once again ... the GOPe triumphed ...

“Those are the facts ...”

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36 posted on 08/20/2015 8:30:04 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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