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To: PGR88; All

“If God spares the USA, then He owes Sodom and Gomorrah an apology”

Hogwash. Go soak your head. There are 10’s of millions of Americans who almost always do the right thing. You picked the wrong country to bash pal!

YOU owe us an apology.


7 posted on 08/19/2015 12:16:48 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever.

Thomas Jefferson


10 posted on 08/19/2015 12:27:08 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: stephenjohnbanker; E. Pluribus Unum; PGR88

“If God spares the USA, then He owes Sodom and Gomorrah an apology”...”Hogwash. Go soak your head.”

SJ Banker, you are correct. For a moment let’s review the Genesis account of Abraham ‘barging’ with God to spare Sodom. Here is the account...

And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous; (Gen 18:20)

I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know. (Gen 18:21)

And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the LORD. (Gen 18:22)

And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked? (Gen 18:23)

Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein? (Gen 18:24)

That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right? (Gen 18:25)

And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes. (Gen 18:26)

And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord, which am but dust and ashes: (Gen 18:27)

Peradventure there shall lack five of the fifty righteous: wilt thou destroy all the city for lack of five? And he said, If I find there forty and five, I will not destroy it. (Gen 18:28)

And he spake unto him yet again, and said, Peradventure there shall be forty found there. And he said, I will not do it for forty’s sake. (Gen 18:29)

And he said unto him, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak: Peradventure there shall thirty be found there. And he said, I will not do it, if I find thirty there. (Gen 18:30)

And he said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord: Peradventure there shall be twenty found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for twenty’s sake. (Gen 18:31)

And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten’s sake. (Gen 18:32)

And the LORD went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place. (Gen 18:33)

Abraham started by asking God if he would spare the city if 50 righteous were found there. And eventually bargained it down to 10, and God said he would not destroy the city. Only Lot and those with him were found to be righteous, and they numbered less than 10. God removed them from harms way, then rained HOLY HELL on those left...Fire and brimstone...sticky, burning sulfur...

pgr88, we all should take a lesson from our merciful God!


17 posted on 08/19/2015 12:40:19 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

You don’t think there were innocents, those who did the right thing, who suffered Sodom and Gomorrah, along with the sinners?

As we allow these horrific events to happen, we become as guilty as the evil doers. We are allowing our money to murder these infants, we should rise up, but we don’t.


18 posted on 08/19/2015 12:40:20 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Hey pal, your country has morphed from “boo” halloween mask to the night of the living dead, for real... God may or may not judge America for her complacency re the exponentially expanding evil in our land but He will judge all unrighteousness of all nations one day... don’t be found among them when He dose. Oh, and don’t discount natural disasters, such as San Andreas, Yellow Stone Super Volcano, severe draught out west and wild fires, potential east coast tsunamis, New Madrid fault in Missouri, and of course there’s the non ending effort to hit America with a huge terrorist attack, not to mention hurricanes and tornadoes... one thing for sure, the Bible explicitly says that those who bless Israel will be blessed, but those who curse Israel will be cursed... the political position of America has changed from blessing Israel to being a torn in the side of Israel... let us wait and see, shall we...


20 posted on 08/19/2015 12:43:26 PM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...lief systems)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

The original quote”If God doesn’t punish America He will have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah.” was made by Ruth Bell Graham, Billy Graham’s wife.


26 posted on 08/19/2015 1:28:59 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

If those 10’s of millions of Americans are Christians they will be swept up in the Rapture and then America will be destroyed. Our home is in heaven, not in any country.


27 posted on 08/19/2015 1:30:13 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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