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1 posted on 08/18/2015 10:24:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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America needs to defend our borders.

Every other country does this. Every one. Some have it down so well they are virtually homogeneous. Many countries in Asia are this way.

Other coutries are less ... racially oriented. But nobody does what we do.

We need to control our border. That is just basic.

Control our border.


2 posted on 08/18/2015 10:27:24 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: SeekAndFind; Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; ...

Trump will assign people in his cabinet that can solve tech problems etc..

Ya know its funny that when Willard was running the RomneyBots claimed we needed him because he was the “strong and mighty one” who could walk on water and solve any problem business or other ...

Now those same groupies are the naysayers for Trump..


3 posted on 08/18/2015 10:29:29 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Trump should make the Chamber of Commerce pay for the wall.


5 posted on 08/18/2015 10:31:59 AM PDT by cabojoe
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“While most of these payments today are made via traditional wire transfers, more and more of them are being made via bitcoin and other digital currencies.”

Most Mexican go to Western Union, they aren’t doing bitcoin hahahahaaaa


6 posted on 08/18/2015 10:32:48 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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Ignore anything political that come from Fortune. They are shills for the Global Elite.


7 posted on 08/18/2015 10:36:10 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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I seriously doubt that most Mexicans sending money to Mexico use Bitcoin. Bitcoin is a hard enough concept for most people familiar with high-tech, much less someone who just wants to send $200 a week back to their mom at home.

If 1/4 of the remittances are sent by Western Union, and I would say that is a very low figure, then a 10% tax on remittances would still be $550,000,000, more than enough to start the wall and enough to finish the wall in just three years.

People will point out that you can’t just tax illegal immigrants remittances.

To that I say:

Wait, you are making a difference between illegal and legal immigrants? I thought they were one and the same? Isn’t that what you say every time someone says they are opposed to illegal immigration?

Legal immigrants from Mexico get hit with the same tax because this is a punishment to all of Mexico for not attempting to stem the flow of illegal immigrants.


8 posted on 08/18/2015 10:36:48 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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The true test of loyalties the following scenario:

What if some kind of incident happens between the United States and Mexico? Which side with would the illegal immigrant take — the US’s or Mexico's.

And a follow up point: this question would have come up if the illegal immigrant had come to the US legally and gone through the naturalization process.

And thirdly: How many illegal immigrants really don't want amnesty and all they want all of the benefits given to them by the United States but they never wish to become citizens? What percentage of the 11-20 million?

10 posted on 08/18/2015 10:37:07 AM PDT by dhs12345
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Free oil drilling and extraction.


12 posted on 08/18/2015 10:38:26 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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Odd--I don't recall any critical evaluations of the costs of Obamacare by Fortune.
13 posted on 08/18/2015 10:41:41 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
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“how he would convince Mexico to pay “
Huh?
There’s no “convincing” involved, any more than a movie theater convinces the public to pay.

Of course now the feds go out and solicit, and escort movie goers inside—free of charge—and penalize the theater for trying to collect ticket prices and exclude gatecrashers.


16 posted on 08/18/2015 10:47:43 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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EVERYTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE UNTIL SOMEONE DOES IT................ROBERT HEINLEIN..............


17 posted on 08/18/2015 10:53:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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...more and more of them are being made via bitcoin and other digital currencies.

That may be true, but more and more is probably under 5 % of the total...

My wife works for WMSC in the money center, she handles lots and lots of wire transfers to Mexico and other South American countries everyday...WMSC is the least expensive way to send them...

To the point of mixing in legal and illegals immigrants sending money...

SO WHAT...

Most of now legal mexicans here at one time jumped the border...

Add a 2 % fee on all money transfer going to Mexico or South American countries..

If they don't like...tough toenails..

19 posted on 08/18/2015 10:56:20 AM PDT by Popman (Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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Trump or whoever is President must make Mexico pay for the wall. Mexico receive jillions of American dollars and we hold the purse strings. It can be done. Trump is 100% correct on this.


20 posted on 08/18/2015 10:57:37 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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Of course it does. But if trump were a democrat and wanted a trillion dollars for a stimulus plan there wouldn’t be any tech problems.


22 posted on 08/18/2015 10:59:01 AM PDT by webheart (We are all pretty much living in a fiction.)
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No it doesn’t.

Withhold financial aid we have been sending to MX.

That’s enough to cover the cost of the wall.


23 posted on 08/18/2015 10:59:51 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama is replicating the instruments of the fall of Rome)
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The Uniparty says triumphantly the Gordian knot can never be untied and we are silly clowns for even trying. While Trump adopts Alexander’s solution.

Blasphemer! /s ;)


24 posted on 08/18/2015 11:06:20 AM PDT by GoneSalt (+NooB+"I STAND WITH DONALD TRUMP-HE'S TERRIFIC-HE'S BRASH-HE SPEAKS THE TRUTH"~TED CRUZ~)
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LOL, is this some tech geek acting like bitcoin is revolutionizing the world again? Yeah, I’m sure all these low-paid latin american illegals have mastered the art of bitcoin.


25 posted on 08/18/2015 11:06:39 AM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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The Don intends to make them an offer they can’t refuse.

It’s like this. Mexico makes a lot of money off America. If they want to continue making lots of money off America, they’re gonna have to help us stop the flow of illegals across our border. And if they don’t, then we have ways of cutting into the dough they make from us.


33 posted on 08/18/2015 11:19:34 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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I would like to know what happened to the money obuma asked for in 2006 for the ‘fence’ he was suppost to build????

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/

Obama says the border fence is ‘now basically complete’

By Robert Farley on Monday, May 16th, 2011 at 5:03 p.m.

In his speech in El Paso on immigration reform on May 10, 2011, President Obama declared that the fence along the border with Mexico is “now basically complete.”

Still, he predicted that many Republican opponents won’t be satisfied.

“We have gone above and beyond what was requested by the very Republicans who said they supported broader reform as long as we got serious about enforcement,” Obama said. “All the stuff they asked for, we’ve done. But even though we’ve answered these concerns, I’ve got to say I suspect there are still going to be some who are trying to move the goal posts on us one more time.”

“They’ll want want a higher fence,” Obama said. “Maybe they’ll need a moat. Maybe they want alligators in the moat. They’ll never be satisfied. And I understand that. That’s politics.”

Fencing along the U.S.-Mexico border has long been a thorny political issue, so with Obama declaring mission accomplished, we decided to check it out.

Department of Homeland Security officials told us they have finished 649 out of 652 miles of fencing (99.5 percent), which includes 299 miles of vehicle barriers and 350 miles of pedestrian fence.

But the same day as Obama’s speech, Sen. Jim DeMint penned an op-ed for National Review in which he countered that the Obama administration has “not done its job to finish the border fence that is a critical part of keeping Americans safe and stopping illegal immigration.”

“Five years ago, legislation was passed to build a 700-mile double-layer border fence along the southwest border,” DeMint wrote. “This is a promise that has not been kept. Today, according to staff at the Department of Homeland Security, just 5 percent of the double-layer fencing is complete, only 36.3 miles.”

So what gives? Is the border fence “now basically complete” or not?

Not to go all Clinton on you, but it largely depends on how you define “fence.”

You need to go back to the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which was passed by a Republican Congress and signed by President George W. Bush. It authorized the construction of hundreds of miles of additional fencing along the border with Mexico. The act specified “at least two layers of reinforced fencing.”

But the law was quietly altered in a significant way the following year.

Responding to urging from the Department of Homeland Security — which argued that different border terrains required different types of fencing, that a one-size-fits-all approach across the entire border didn’t make sense — Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, proposed an amendment to give DHS the discretion to decide what type of fence was appropriate in different areas. The law was amended to read, “nothing in this paragraph shall require the Secretary of Homeland Security to install fencing, physical barriers, roads, lighting, cameras, and sensors in a particular location along an international border of the United States, if the Secretary determines that the use or placement of such resources is not the most appropriate means to achieve and maintain operational control over the international border at such location.”

In other words, Border Patrol would have the leeway to decide which type of fencing was appropriate in various regions.

The amendment was included in a federal budget bill in late 2007 despite being condemned by legislators such as Reps. Peter King, R-N.Y., and Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., who argued the amendment effectively killed the border fence promised in the 2006 bill.

At the time, Hutchison told the San Antonio Express-News, “Border patrol agents reported that coyotes and drug-runners were altering their routes as fencing was deployed, so the amendment gives our agents discretion to locate the fence where necessary to achieve operational control of our border.”

DHS reports there are currently 36.3 miles of double-layered fencing, the kind with enough gap that you can drive a vehicle between the layers. But the majority of the fencing erected has been vehicle barriers, which are designed to stop vehicles rather than people (see here), and single-layer pedestrian fencing (see here). The design specifications vary depending on geography and climate characteristics, but according to the Customs and Border Patrol website, it includes “post on rail” steel set in concrete; steel picket-style fence set in concrete; vehicle bollards similar to those found around federal buildings; “Normandy” vehicle fence consisting of steel beams; and concrete jersey walls with steel mesh.

That’s not enough for some opponent of illegal immigration. “They are interpreting the requirements of the Secure Fence Act in a way that is clearly contrary to what Congress intended,” said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which favors tougher enforcement against illegal immigration.

There may be a role for the vehicle barriers, but “your grandmother could hop over them,” he said, and “that’s not what Congress thought it was voting for.”

Krikorian said, “The president’s claim that the job is done is misleading.”

A Government Accountability Office report on border security, issued in February 2011, paints a mixed picture. The report acknowledges progress on the fences, as well as hundreds more miles deemed to be under “operational control,” but “DHS reports that the southwest border continues to be vulnerable to cross-border illegal activity, including the smuggling of humans and illegal narcotics.”

T.J. Bonner, retired president of the National Border Patrol Council, the union that represents all the front-line border patrol agents, said the type of fencing is less important than whether the border is secure.

It is estimated that for every person caught (Border Patrol reported apprehending over 445,000 illegal entrants in 2010) two more get by, Bonner said. “To me, that doesn’t seem like border security.”

But is it accurate for Obama to claim that “the fence is now basically complete”?

DHS reports that there is now fencing for 649 of the 652 miles described in the Secure Fence Act of 2006. But the vast majority of the requirement was met with vehicle barriers and single-layer pedestrian fence. The original act specifically called for double-layer fencing, and only 36.3 miles of double-layered fencing currently exist. However, the act was later amended to allow Border Security the discretion to determine which type of fencing was appropriate for different areas.

So Obama can make a case that the vehicle barriers and single-layer pedestrian fences meet the amended letter of the law. But we also think Obama misleads, particularly when he mocks Republican opponents, saying that even though the fence has been built, “They’ll want want a higher fence. Maybe they’ll need a moat. Maybe they want alligators in the moat.” The Border Patrol has not gone “above and beyond” what Republicans requested, as Obama claimed. What they originally requested was a double-layer fence, and they didn’t get much of it. And so we rate Obama’s statement Barely True.


35 posted on 08/18/2015 11:37:28 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ("It's the hard working, tax paying citizens of the United States that are suffering...")
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Another anti-Trump hit piece. When will these establishment hacks figure out that, to us in the base, every attack just makes us more pro-Trump?


36 posted on 08/18/2015 11:38:48 AM PDT by Hether
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