Posted on 08/17/2015 3:49:35 AM PDT by expat_panama
The fact that other countries want a bite of our carcass is not a sign that we are healthy.
Yet we give jobs to the enemy invaders. If there weren't jobs for them, they wouldn't be here. In Nevada, California, and Texas, 10-11 percent of the workforce are illegal. AZ, FL, NJ and NY are not far behind that.
The most powerful group in the GOP are the economic elitists aka the Captains of Capitalism(who you call Marxists) and they want amnesty and a robust immigration policy.
I don't think King Donald the Great is sincere, he's just trying to agitate the crazies. Beyond that, do you honestly think he has 60 cloture votes in the senate?
>> Imagine PT Barnum, Huey Long and George Wallace all rolled into one <<
I agree with you 110% — if not more!
That’s loaded question...
We are at war. When at war, the rules of birth citizenship, due process, 60 cloture votes, etc., don’t apply.
You’re right. I’m all for Jeb F’in Bush now. He’s a god amongst mere mortals and we’d do well to recognize it.
Most recently, the senate passed legislation with 68 votes, but the legislation didn't survive the Hastert Rule in the House. There are more than enough votes on the floor of the House if Boehner would put it on the floor for a vote.
So you see, the people today who are supporting Trump, are the same people who supported the House GOP hardliners(Tea Party? Minutemen?) who used the Hastert Rule to block the Senate legislation.
This group in the House has enough votes to block only if the Hastert Rule is used. We don't know exactly how many there are but lets say 60% of the House GOP caucus.
Based on that and the vote in the senate, Trumps immigration plan would get 32 votes in the Senate and 60% of the House GOP caucus.
Its not likely that the Trump plan could even get out of the Senate Judiciary committee.
Before I answer - I don’t like personal comments, I try as hard as I can to refrain from them here, admitting the occasional lapse.
Regardless, there’s no need for due process in any way if they are denied entry. Deportations probably do require a lot of process, but it is more than do-able. No pun.
Birth right Citizenship is a far from clear issue but I’d agree that retrospective laws are not permitted in our system, save Democrat sponsored tax bills. To root out the accidental kid citizens would require their parents to take them, they are not deportable.
The FDIC, NACHA, the bank card payments systems, SWIFT and the money transmitters seize, impound or otherwise level penalties on digital money without warrants or judgements ALL THE TIME, everyday, at the behest of the DOJ and the CFPB, not to leave anyone else out. The executive branch could levy any due diligence or fee or scrutiny it wanted on any digital payment at any time.
A month without dollars in a simple delay gets the wall built, that’s for sure. A month where every Mexican truck crossing the border goes to the weigh station with brakes and tires taken off and checked, in other words acting just like the Mexicans, would get the wall built. Drug tests for the truck drives, blah blah blah. It takes balls, that’s all.
tx! Trump defenders may say that anything Trump said yesterday doesn’t matter because he changes his mind, but imho that doesn’t sound like a very impressive defense.
That is absurd. Environmentalists want all industry off shored. To them an ideal America is bike trails and little shops selling jars of honey and skin cremes. They hate nasty factories. Unions are dead; 90% of the manufacturing work force is not unionized. 90%!. Nazi Pelosi is a protectionist? News to me.
Trump plans on enforcing existing laws, edicts are not required.
Bull S*** the laws are already on the books. All Trump has to do is enforce EXISTING LAW.
Agreed! and the article smells to high heaven of the Republican Establishment!
-PJ
On the surface, that is true. There are illegals here and there are agencies to deal with that, but Congress does not appropriate enough money.
And this is basis of the conflict.
Without enough money we can deport some of them, then it becomes an issue of which illegals get deported and which illegals don't get deported.
The method we used was the " low hanging fruit" method. We would deport those that were easiest to catch, which were those living openly who were contributing to society and the GDP. The ones that we didn't deport were those who were hard to catch: criminals and such.
That's what made everybody mad at Obama. He changed the rules to defer process on those that were easiest to catch, insisting that we deport the worst illegals.
OTOH, many say Trump would have enough money to deport all the illegals if he suspended due process, because the due process we grant to illegals is very costly. But if he tries to suspend due process the courts will shut him down.
The notion of an open borders North America is dead. Mexico killed it by encouraging its' so call undesirables to illegally migrate to the USA. Mexicos' ruling class is racist they do not want the native Incas in Mexico.
Really? I thought they wanted all industry abolished, especially the offshored ones.
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