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To: SoFloFreeper
While TD Jakes was certainly a charismatic and powerful speaker, he never renounced his Sabellianism (or Modalism), a heretical teaching that God was one Person, not three in one. TD Jakes and other "oneness" pentacostals reject the historic and fundamental view of the Trinity.

The Christian belief of the Godhead, Jesus, The Father, and Holy Spirit are three separate Persons that are co-equal, co-existent, and co-eternal. They are all God having all power (omnipotence), all knowledge (omniscience) and all presence (omnipresence) except when Jesus was on earth in bodily form. Jesus exists from everlasting to everlasting. He was sent from the Father to fulfill the will of the Father. He willingly submitted but is no less God. The apostle John warned us about men like TD Jakes...

2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
11 posted on 08/09/2015 9:42:41 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

**While TD Jakes was certainly a charismatic and powerful speaker, he never renounced his Sabellianism (or Modalism), a heretical teaching that God was one Person, not three in one. TD Jakes and other “oneness” pentacostals reject the historic and fundamental view of the Trinity.**

You want historical? Read the scripture, and find Jesus Christ, or the apostles and writers of the NT, using the phrase “God the Son” or “God the Holy Spirit” (Ghost). They don’t.

God the Father is IN Christ, and Christ is IN God the Father. God the Father is NOT another image, but a Spirit, and invisible. The image of the Son is image of the invisible God. It’s HOW God displayed his attributes to mankind on THEIR level.

Everything divine flows from the Father. He has placed all authority and power in his Son, whom he has appointed heir of all things. The Son INHERRITTED it all, including his name. You can’t inherit something you’ve always and forever had. The ‘separate and distinct, co-equal, co-eternal three persons trinity’ is part of the Roman system. It’s that simple.

I don’t know Jakes heart. I’d never heard of the man until maybe a ten years ago. I DO KNOW that ministers go astray; for Paul warned the Christian men that came from Ephesus (to hear him for the last time) that even from among their ranks would false teachers arise, teaching heresies, and leading followers away from the truth.


35 posted on 08/09/2015 10:42:41 AM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Thank you, finally someone states the truth = T.J. Jakes has been and is a heretic who has proclaimed and held to the heretical doctrine of Modalism for years. You also did an admirable job of defining the false doctrine he espouses in terms the average person can understand.


49 posted on 08/09/2015 7:47:13 PM PDT by Jmouse007 (Almighty Jehovah, deliver us from this evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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